New Crested!

[leonut]

Hey guys, I'll be getting this guy from AC reptiles in the mail soon. I can't wait to see what he looks like fired up!

(Edit) the photo was taken from acreptiles.com not me

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

You picked yourself out a nice one, Larry. Congrats!

 

[yellermelon]

nice looking crested!

 

[Kristi23]

Beautiful!

 

[leonut]

thanks guys. I forgot to add he's a harlequin pinstripe and pale red when fired up.

 

[goReptiles]

He doesn't have much marking on his legs, so I'd say he's probably more of a flame. You'd see the pinning on him even not fired, and it's pretty mimimal. Maybe it's just the angle of the picture. Definitely post more pictures when you get him. Even as is, he's pretty nice looking. I like the dark and cream contrast; I have a few like that, but they don't fire up pale red so that'd be interesting to see.

 

[leonut]

I'd say he has too much coloring on the sides NOT to be considered a harly. It's hard to see in that photo but he has more markings on his legs than it looks. (Plus he isn't fired up) Yes, his pinstripes are partial. His parents are extremely red so thats why he fires up red. Even though he is not as impressive as his parents I think he should produce some top notch offspring.

Here are more pictures of him and his parents. Maybe these will help.

http://www.acreptiles.com/store/index.php?target=products&product_id=378

(P.S I'll definetly post more pics when he arrives.)

 

[spritzer]

It's a nice looking male. My wife actually bought that one in early Dec. of last year but by mid to late Jan he still hadn't arrived and she had to cancel the transaction. I've seen other pics because of that situation and he does fire up a nice red w/good harlie markings. Good luck.

 

[goReptiles]

I'd say he has too much coloring on the sides NOT to be considered a harly. It's hard to see in that photo but he has more markings on his legs than it looks. (Plus he isn't fired up) Yes, his pinstripes are partial. His parents are extremely red so thats why he fires up red. Even though he is not as impressive as his parents I think he should produce some top notch offspring.

The main difference between flame and harlie is more in the leg markings than the sides. I'd love a side picture. Hopefully he will fire up red like the parents. The mother was impressive. I really wouldn't even consider him a partial pinstripe. I am really interested in more pictures when you get him.

 

[leonut]

The main difference between flame and harlie is more in the leg markings than the sides.

I havn't really seen anything confirming this. Nothing I've read/been told said anything about one trait being more important than the other.

I'd love a side picture.

Sure. It's hard to see his front legs but you can see his back legs have plenty of pattern.

I am really interested in more pictures when you get him

I definitley will :main_yes:

 

[goReptiles]

I see a little pattern, not much.

The Harlequin Morph is a type of Flame Morph often refered to as a "Harly" for short. The increased mottling and coloration on the sides and legs are what makes a harlequin different from a normal flame.

 

[leonut]

The Harlequin Morph is a type of Flame Morph often refered to as a "Harly" for short. The increased mottling and coloration on the sides and legs are what makes a harlequin different from a normal flame.

I understand that, but earlier you said,

The main difference between flame and harlie is more in the leg markings than the sides.

I guess i should have been more specific. What I'm trying to say is I have yet to see anything confirming leg pattern is more important than side pattern. Not that side/leg pattern is more important than dorsal pattern.

 

[leonut]

I see a little pattern, not much.

How much is enough pattern then? Could you post a pic or something?

 

[goReptiles]

I understand that, but earlier you said,

I guess i should have been more specific. What I'm trying to say is I have yet to see anything confirming leg pattern is more important than side pattern. Not that side/leg pattern is more important than dorsal pattern.

What I was saying is that the leg pattern is what determines the difference between a flame and harlequin. Hence 'The main difference between flame and harlie is more in the leg markings than the sides," meaning there needs to be side markings but because there are side markings on both, the difference is the leg markings. The picture that you have available has minimal leg markings. He could potentially grow into some more markings though. Plus, you said he wasn't fired up, which means maybe it'll be more pronounced. I don't see any markings on the front legs at all though.

 

[leonut]

What I was saying is that the leg pattern is what determines the difference between a flame and harlequin. Hence 'The main difference between flame and harlie is more in the leg markings than the sides," meaning there needs to be side markings but because there are side markings on both, the difference is the leg markings. The picture that you have available has minimal leg markings. He could potentially grow into some more markings though. Plus, you said he wasn't fired up, which means maybe it'll be more pronounced. I don't see any markings on the front legs at all though.

I thought flame was just a dorsal pattern.

Here is a website with photos that have the markings highlited.

http://www.pangeareptile.com/morphs_colors.htm

 

[goReptiles]

That's the website I used to get the description. Flames also have some side patterns. Although they typically don't have much, most have some. Maybe I'm wrong, but all descriptions I've seen of flames have some side patterns and little to no leg patterns.

 

[leonut]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. :main_thumbsup:

 

[gators0204]

Thats a flame. I have a male who looks almost identical but mine has partial pinstriping.

 

[shanerules]

AC Reptiles is local by me, good luck with the crestie! its a great lookin one!

 

[leonut]

Well, I changed the oder and decided to get three babies for the same price.