new leopards from petco...

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LadyGecko

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Those are two sweet Leos
They should be real beauties when full grown
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Are you using an under the tank heater on the tank?

Not eating is common with babies being moved into a new home for the first week but you need to make sure that you have a "belly heat" temp for them of 88 to 90 on the floor of the tank for them to be warm enough to digest their food

Most Leo babies love meal worms and you can leave a dish of them dusted with calcium in the tank 24/7 for them to munch on all night long

You might want to replace the white bulb with a red one for night viewing
and if you get rid of the overhead white light-they might be a bit less shy during the day time

Just keep their meal worm dish full and give them fresh water daily and a cap with plain calcium in it and don't try and handle them for a week and they should be fine

If you notice very runny and smelly poop-you would want to bring a sample of it into a vet for a fecal but they look really healthy


You will need a digital thermometer with a probe on the end to measure the floor temp or a temp gun
A dial type thermometer or a stick on one will only measure the air temp of the tank

My apologies if you already have a uth on the tank
just trying to help

Good Luck with them
Sandy
 

fishyfan

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I went to check on them and the one you guys think is a male was trying to climb onto the back of the one you guys think is a female. The "female" didn't seem to like it very much but the "male" finally made it on top of her and now they are both asleep with the "male" sleeping on top of the "female". This isn't breeding behavior is it?
 

fishyfan

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Thanks for the help everyone

yea, i have an UTH on one side, it covers about 1/3 of the tanks bottom. I used a mercury thermometer to measure the ground temp. The warm side stabilized at 88 and the cool side is about 75.

Can i leave the red light on during the day?
 

Ccrashca069

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You can leave the red light on as long as it doesn't get hotter then like 90-92. You can get a pretty nice dig thermometer for $9.99. I use the red lights and love the night time viewing of them. I can stand or sit near them and watch them hunt, eat and just climb around.

BTW nice leopards and patterns.
 

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Should be fine, make sure you get some vitamins along with that calcium.
Make sure you gutload your feeder worms/crickets

I personally use Jurasical(prob spelled it wrong) it sticks to stuff like crazy, but one bottle of calcium and one bottle of vitiamins should last a long time.

Oh and dont forget to get a gatoraid cap and put calcium in the cap then place it in the tank, so they can get it if they want it.

happy gecko-ing!
 

fishyfan

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How long will it be before i can sex them fairly easily?

Also, the smaller one doesn't seem to be putting on much weight. Is there something i can feed them to fatten her up a bit? How much will they normally eat when they are this size? I put 12 mealworms in the tank yesterday and when i got up this morning, only 6 had been eaten...

thanks for the help
 

fishyfan

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fishyfan said:
How long will it be before i can sex them fairly easily?

Also, the smaller one doesn't seem to be putting on much weight. Is there something i can feed them to fatten her up a bit? How much will they normally eat when they are this size? I put 12 mealworms in the tank yesterday and when i got up this morning, only 6 had been eaten...

thanks for the help

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fishyfan

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New pics:
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My sister is holding them in these pics...

The bigger one
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leopard1.jpg


The smaller one:
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sushikam

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Originally Posted by fishyfan
How long will it be before i can sex them fairly easily?

Also, the smaller one doesn't seem to be putting on much weight. Is there something i can feed them to fatten her up a bit? How much will they normally eat when they are this size? I put 12 mealworms in the tank yesterday and when i got up this morning, only 6 had been eaten...

thanks for the help


I"m not sure at what age you can sex them, you can probably start to get a decent guess at about 4 months, but I"m no expert at that, so I could be compeletly off...I would say at 6 months you should be able to tell though, and the older they get, the better you can tell.

Do you watch them when they eat? I noticed you are housing them together, and I'm thinking that the bigger one is dominating the littler one and eating more of the food, though you did say you put 12 mealies in there and only 6 were gone. If you could separate them that would probably be best. Or you could just use tweezers to feed the younger one so that you know she is getting her food. You'll probably just have to watch them eat every night so you can see how they are acting. If that isn't the problem then there may be a health problem with the little one, I think parasites are the only thing that would keep them from gaining weight. Or the little one could just be stressed from being housed with the bigger one.

It's just a matter of figuring out why the little one isn't gaining, whether it be stress, not eating, or a health issue.

I hope I helped, I'm not an expert here so maybe someone else has a better idea on that question :) .
 

fishyfan

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I tried some pin head crickets and the small one loved them. I guess he just won't eat mealworms. I've tried holding a mealworm in front of him but he just goes back to sleep :main_huh:

I then tried dusting the crickets with some vitamins and then he wouldnt eat them. Is it nessasary to dust their food? If it is, then i dont know what im going to do with the smaller one :(
 
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evilxyardxgnome

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Some of my geckos won't go after meal worms because they don't stimulate them. But a fast moving cricket usually gets their attention. Remember you can feed them a cricket that is as big as their head. Pin heads might be too small.
 

sushikam

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fishyfan said:
I tried some pin head crickets and the small one loved them. I guess he just won't eat mealworms. I've tried holding a mealworm in front of him but he just goes back to sleep :main_huh:

I then tried dusting the crickets with some vitamins and then he wouldnt eat them. Is it nessasary to dust their food? If it is, then i dont know what im going to do with the smaller one :(

I agree with evilxyardxgnome, using somewhat larger crickets may be better to help her gain weight, as long as they are no larger than the width of her head. I would have to say that dusting them with calcium just about every night and then vitamins and calcium with d3 once or twice a week is necessary...if it's not necessary then I don't know how else you would get the proper nutrients to your geckos. If you keep a dish of calcium in the tank at all times they can lick out of that, but I don't know how often they actually do that, as I've never seen mine use their calcium dish (but of course I am sleeping most of the time they are out so who knows).

Also I know Marcia (GoldenGateGeckos) has a slurry posted in I believe the "Feeding/Feeders" section of the forum, and it can be used to help leos gain weight when they aren't able to eat themselves or just aren't gaining any weight. I'm not sure if it would be necessary for your leo, but if she won't eat then you could try it.

I hope some others will chime in on this as I"m no expert, I'm just relaying as best I can what I have learned from the forum (correct me anyone if I am wrong :D ).
 

fishyfan

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What should i do about the vitamins then? The small one will lunge and get the dusted crickets in his mouth and then spit them out...

thanks for you help
 

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I've seen some really nice ones from Petco as of recently. They had a bunch that looked like they were part snow the last time they went. I wasn't going to get them though because they looked half dead and the manager wouldn't budge on letting me rescue them.
 

sushikam

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fishyfan said:
What should i do about the vitamins then? The small one will lunge and get the dusted crickets in his mouth and then spit them out...

thanks for you help

I'm not sure, as I've never had that issue. I guess when you gutload your crickets you could make sure they are eating enough vitamins and calciums so that when you geckos get them they will be eating that nutrition. The gutload I use already has calcium and other nutrients in it and I still dust the mealworms, so I"m not sure if skipping the dusting would be ok. I hope someone else will read this and figure something out for you. I can't think of any other way to get the vitamins to your geckos other than gutloading the crickets with extra vitamins and then feeding them to your geckos.

Sorry I couldn't be of much help.
 

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