Newest male, soon to be a breeder :)
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PhoenixCoconut
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They are beautiful but I hope your male does not turn out to carry rainwater blood! you r female looks like she has a regenerated tail tip
PS you are not supposed to mix albinos (but you did not do the breeder did but just make sure that you don't!)
PS you are not supposed to mix albinos (but you did not do the breeder did but just make sure that you don't!)
What is wrong with rainwater? And her tale has always been like that, as long as I have had her at least, unless something happened when she was at the pet store.
I'm intrigued, how come?
Edit: Found it myself, it will give a Het tremper, Het Rainwater, which can make things confusing. I will not be doing so then as I don't have another albino
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I thought he looked familiar
He is a cool little gecko.
Waiiittt, Are you the breeder?
If so, small world.
jbs81890
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Also you don't want to do it because the three albino strains are incompatible so breeding a tremper her rw to a sht would give you double hets for rw and tremper aka MUDDY WATERS dont do it...do some more research before breeding as well
one would think so. If the tremper gene and the rainwater gene mixed into one gecko gives you a normal gecko thats het for both strains of albino then this little guy would look normal.
That is what I thought from what I read, so it would seem he is only one of the two.one would think so. If the tremper gene and the rainwater gene mixed into one gecko gives you a normal gecko thats het for both strains of albino then this little guy would look normal.
BrightReptiles
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You need to talk to the breeder. If he is het rainwater you should never breed him at all.
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Thats the typo of gecko you shouldnt really breed since tou do not know the actual genetics of it.
Everything I have been able to find so far says the he should be normal if he had both. I guess it is possible that his parents carried both genes, and then passed on both. I bought him specifically to breed under the impression he was a Tremper albino, when I bought him the seller said he "might" have rainwater in him. I don't want to have my money wasted and he is a beautiful gecko, kind of frustrated right about now.
Technically wouldn't breeding morphs like Enigmas be as bad, if not worse than breeding a gecko with possibly 2 albino traits? Considering the fact that enigmas have clear issues that are constantly being bred, which would be the equivalent of purposefully trying to breed humans with Downs syndrome, would it not? Granted down's system causes deformities and enigma does not, it still has the same principle. You are passing down traits based on looks rather than worrying about the possible consequences of these issues.
I've been studying a decent bit of biology and veterinary medicine and I feel it would be nice to see the results of these two, they would not be sold as breeders and I would not be breeding many. I live on an Island where shipping is a pain so it is not like the few that would be around would spread massively.
I know I am trying to justify breeding these two, but if you look at the bigger picture it would not be that big of a deal.
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Right but its the fact that you dont know the genetics of the gecko if you plane on breeding good quality geckos and have people buy them you need to know your breeders.. i agree it looks great.. but you also got a "steal" but a gecko with unknown genetics.. thats what its best to buy your breeders from known breeders.
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It could easily show one alpine strain and be het for another. The grandparents would have been temper x rainwater, their offspring would be bred to each other producing what you have here. Obviously this is speculation since you have no history of the parents, but regardless this gecko should not be bred. Sorry :/
Thanks for setting that straight.
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He is second generation double het, which means he is expressing either tremper or rainwater albino visually, and carrying the other het non-visibly. Taking a really really close look at him, he looks similar to another "new blood" posted recently, but older.
Only in the first generation will you have normals carrying double hets. Every subsequent generation, you will have no way of knowing which albino strain is showing and which one is hiding. This is precisely why no one should be doing this.
This individual may in fact be expressing both albino strains, but it's difficult to tell visually.
Aha! here's the other thread. Can a few other eyes compare and contrast and see if they see what I'm seeing?
http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=71199
(7th pic down)
I'm sorry you're getting a crash course in genetics this way.
He is second generation double het, which means he is expressing either tremper or rainwater albino visually, and carrying the other het non-visibly. Taking a really really close look at him, he looks similar to another "new blood" posted recently, but older.
Only in the first generation will you have normals carrying double hets. Every subsequent generation, you will have no way of knowing which albino strain is showing and which one is hiding. This is precisely why no one should be doing this.
This individual may in fact be expressing both albino strains, but it's difficult to tell visually.
Aha! here's the other thread. Can a few other eyes compare and contrast and see if they see what I'm seeing?
http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=71199
(7th pic down)
I'm sorry you're getting a crash course in genetics this way.
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