Newest male, soon to be a breeder :)

[satyr666]

I don't see what you learned about genetics you simply ignored everyone's advice and are coming up with your own solution. How many people is it going to take to make you realize what you are planning on doing should not be done? You are unqualified to make breeding decisions because you do not understand basic genetics. I am new to leos as well but I have done a lot of research and I listen to people who have a lot more experience than me, if you are unwilling to accept advice from people more educated than yourself you are going to have a hard time learning anything in general. If you want a cheap breeder try kijiji there is usually local breeders selling or people selling off normals that their kids have lost interest in. I hope you come to your senses but hey its your gecko and your reputation right?

 

[endrien]

I don't see what you learned about genetics you simply ignored everyone's advice and are coming up with your own solution. How many people is it going to take to make you realize what you are planning on doing should not be done? You are unqualified to make breeding decisions because you do not understand basic genetics. I am new to leos as well but I have done a lot of research and I listen to people who have a lot more experience than me, if you are unwilling to accept advice from people more educated than yourself you are going to have a hard time learning anything in general. If you want a cheap breeder try kijiji there is usually local breeders selling or people selling off normals that their kids have lost interest in. I hope you come to your senses but hey its your gecko and your reputation right?

I've learned a lot about genetics, listening to what others have said is a different story. I understand the Genetics, and the percentages and have put them through a gene calculator. Kijiji is no different than breeding this guy, there is never many geckos and they also have no genetic history.
At least with this Tremper I am pretty sure he is only tremper, with any of the others here it is a guessing game.

 

[jbs81890]

You may claim it's done but it's not. If you still haven't learned that breeding that gecko is the wrong thing to do. If you want to breed make sure you know what you have not hope you hit that 50% chance it's not. It's very greedy to breed that animal and produce double hets and have to possibly cull young geckos because they are indeed carrying both genes. This gecko should be a pet only and you should find a breeder male that is more suitable for what you are trying to produce. You claimed to have learned from what people have told you here but you apparently have not.

 

[satyr666]

If you are saying the mother and the father both possibly were het rainwater albino but because your gecko is not a normal that it can't be carrying rainwater genes then you have to do some further research on genetics because you are wrong.

Tremper het Rainwater x Tremper het Rainwater =

25% Rainwater Albino Tremper Albino
50% Tremper Albino het Rainwater Albino
25% Tremper Albino

Tremper het Rainwater x Tremper =

50% Tremper Albino het Rainwater Albino
50% Tremper Albino

Normal het rainwater het tremper x normal het rainwater het tremper =

6.25% Tremper Albino Rainwater Albino
12.5% Rainwater Albino het Tremper Albino
12.5% Tremper Albino het Rainwater Albino
25% Normal het Tremper Albino het Rainwater Albino
6.25% Rainwater Albino
12.5% Normal het Rainwater Albino
6.25% Tremper Albino
12.5% Normal het Tremper Albino
6.25% Normal

Each one of those pairs can produce a tremper albino with a hidden rainwater het.

I would give kijiji a chance in my area there is some local breeders that do keep good documentation, try contacting some of them don't just make assumptions.

 

[endrien]

All right, I will look around online and locally to try and find a better partner for my Hypo Tangerine.
I guess a lot of this is just trying to try and convince myself the money was not wasted.

 

[satyr666]

You have a healthy gecko that will be a great pet, I wouldn't consider that a waste. he's just not the breeder you were hoping for.

 

[endrien]

You have a healthy gecko that will be a great pet, I wouldn't consider that a waste. he's just not the breeder you were hoping for.

I will also take this time to do a lot more research. I may keep him, or may put him for adoption if I get another gecko. Looking at a few online now so we will see how that turns out.

 

[lillith]

All right, I will look around online and locally to try and find a better partner for my Hypo Tangerine.
I guess a lot of this is just trying to try and convince myself the money was not wasted.

I DO understand the disappointment involved, and I remember how exciting my first project plans were...I would be irked if I couldn't proceed as planned. But it would be even more disappointing to do this project the way you were intending, because not only would it give you a faulty understanding of the genetics; it would create geckos that would probably end up having to be put down. Which is horrible enough if you have a deformed baby, but is even worse if you know it's a mistake you created and they are perfectly healthy.

Please, do some more looking into it and don't be afraid to ask questions. We're here to help! Thanks for being receptive.

 

[Owens]

Hey bud (op). I currently am selling a beautiful bold and possibly my awesome tangerine. If it means that you won't breed your male albino I may sell you my tangerine to help you out. Although it may take some convincing as I love the little guy. He is the one in my avatar.

 

[endrien]

Hey bud (op). I currently am selling a beautiful bold and possibly my awesome tangerine. If it means that you won't breed your male albino I may sell you my tangerine to help you out. Although it may take some convincing as I love the little guy. He is the one in my avatar.

Right now I have possibly a male and female Tremper albino lined up to be shipped in. Getting pretty excited that I was able to find them, seller needs to check the records on their parents to make sure they are not siblings, if they are I will only get the male I believe.

Also, after looking around, I think my "tremper" may actually be a rainwater, this picture of a rainwater albino looks identical to him:
http://www.leopardgeckowiki.com/images/8/80/Rw1.jpg

 

[BrightReptiles]

90% of identifying albinos is in the eyes. If you post a good eye shot we can help you. Though, that will not tell any hets and the gecko shouldn't be bred regardless which alpine strain it is showing visually.

 

[Wild West Reptile]

Though, that will not tell any hets and the gecko shouldn't be bred regardless which ALPINE strain it is showing visually.

Is the "alpine" strain one of 3 different mountains they are from Richard? :main_huh::main_yes:

Sorry, couldn't resist bro. :main_thumbsup:

 

[BrightReptiles]

Haha, I'm always posting from my evo so I get random autocorrect fails :/




Ok LOL I laughed when I saw it put alpine.

 

[Kristi23]

I've learned a lot about genetics, listening to what others have said is a different story. I understand the Genetics, and the percentages and have put them through a gene calculator. Kijiji is no different than breeding this guy, there is never many geckos and they also have no genetic history.
At least with this Tremper I am pretty sure he is only tremper, with any of the others here it is a guessing game.

You have no idea if he's just tremper or not. He has at least a 50% chance of being het for rainwater with the info you posted. You still have a lot to learn.

The person who sold this gecko is just as irresponsible as the person who bred it. And if you put it up for "adoption", then you're just as irresponsible. You have no way of knowing if the gecko will be bred once it's gone. Keep the gecko as a pet (he should have been culled in the beginning, well actually never produced). Learn genetics, keep geckos for awhile, and then start thinking about breeding.

 

[endrien]

90% of identifying albinos is in the eyes. If you post a good eye shot we can help you. Though, that will not tell any hets and the gecko shouldn't be bred regardless which alpine strain it is showing visually.

As far as I am aware she doesn't have any het's and was bred from two other hypos. But you never know, here are some pics of her eye:


http://i42.tinypic.com/jiyv6a.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/ivj155.jpg

 

[im faster]

the only thing i know...

if u breed these 2 you WILL end up blackballed from the gecko community..
people willl stop selling to you and buying from you..

 

[endrien]

the only thing i know...

if u breed these 2 you WILL end up blackballed from the gecko community..
people willl stop selling to you and buying from you..

I already made a post saying I was not going to be doing it and that I am looking into two trempers with no hets.

 

[NinjaDuo]

I already made a post saying I was not going to be doing it and that I am looking into two trempers with no hets.

It's just a headsup.....

 

[endrien]

I really want to thank you guys for convincing me not to breed him, I have learned so much more and will continue to learn so much more before I finally end up breeding. Just sorry it took so much to get it through my head

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Endrien, thanks for being receptive to good advice