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Kjenkins

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Ok so I'm still not shur what she is. I really the more I look at her don't think she is a rainwater like the shop said. I gave the shop owner this look when I got her like he was crazy. She dosn't look like any rainwater I'v ever seen. I'v posted about her before but these are better pic's of her. I test breed her to my jungle. I'm going to keep a male an breed it back to her to see if I get albino. She is just such a pretty gecko tho. What do yall think of her anything to point me in the right direction with this lil mystery will be much appreciated. P6160226.jpg P6160227.jpg P6160228.jpg P6160229.jpg P6160202.jpg
 

acpart

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It looks like a Bell albino to me, but I'm not a Bell expert. The only problem with breeding it to your male (who I assume is either albino or het for albino) to see if you get albinos, is that if you don't get albinos, the offspring will be het for 2 different albino types and that can cause a lot of confusion (and is frowned upon by breeders).

Aliza
 

Kjenkins

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No I'm not stupid my jungle is het for nothing. I'm going to keep the offspring to breed back to her to see if I get albino. She is not a bell I have a bell. Her eyes are not even right to be a bell. Her eyes are blue gray not pink. So bell has already been crossed off my list but thanks anyway.
 

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It would be very odd for a RW to have such dark colors. My guess would be either Tremper or Bell (or possibly both). Can't tell with visual cues alone. She is very skinny though. I would try to fatten her up lots before breeding her. Good luck!
 

Kjenkins

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She just layed 2 days ago thats why she is skinny looking. So you think I got stuck with a mixed albino? That would suck. Well I'll test breed her and see if i get albino. If that is thhe case she is still a great pet and I'll sale the offspring off as pet only. Man that will suck but its my falt I new when I got her there was no way she was a rainwater. I fell in love with her color tho that brown and pastel yellow. Well I guess I'll see what my test breed brings. Now say I test breed and dont get albino what do you think she would be than? Maybe just a high yellow or pastel???
 

Kristi23

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It's not always possible to id an albino visually. It may be bell or it may be tremper. Hard to say. You say your jungle is het nothing, but that's pretty rare to find nowadays. If you want to breed, buy quality geckos with known genetics. It may cost a little more, but it's worth it. That way you're helping clean up genetic lines and not creating more of a mess. Good luck!

Also, selling them as pet only is the right thing, however, you can't control what others do. Some people will buy cheap pet only geckos to breed and it messes things up more.
 

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Your gecko is definitely albino. You just don't know what kind. The brown coloration is due to low incubation temperatures or low living temperatures. In order to be sure which albino she is you would have to breed her to a male of each strain for at least one if not two seasons. You would need 20 babies from each pairing to be relatively sure she is not hiding a second strain of albino in her background.

Females do tend to lose a bit of weight during the breeding season but your gal is a bit thinner than I like mine to ever get. I would suggest separating her from the male if she is housed with him to reduce her stress and make sure she has no competition for food. Also make sure she has a nice moist hide and an UTH set to about 90-92 degrees. Make sure the air temperature in her tank is around 75-85 and not higher than that. Also, give her a bowl of pure calcium if she does not have one already.

Good luck with her!
 

Kjenkins

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Look I think this WoWo guy thats been posting has yall all worked up. The only gecko I have ever got that I'm not shur of is the one I posted about. Everyone makes a mi-stack here and there mine was an impulse by of this gecko. All my other geckos are perfectly fine. My set up is fine I'm not one of the people on here that did absolutely no research before starting to breed. I think I'm just going to get off the subject of her before my name gets ran in to the ground for one mistake. I'm sorry I posted this and I will donate the offspring to my mother in laws resource class room. I will also remove her from my project and find her a good home were she can just be loved for what ever she is. Thanks and yall have a great rest of the day.
 

Kristi23

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Look I think this WoWo guy thats been posting has yall all worked up. The only gecko I have ever got that I'm not shur of is the one I posted about. Everyone makes a mi-stack here and there mine was an impulse by of this gecko. All my other geckos are perfectly fine. My set up is fine I'm not one of the people on here that did absolutely no research before starting to breed. I think I'm just going to get off the subject of her before my name gets ran in to the ground for one mistake. I'm sorry I posted this and I will donate the offspring to my mother in laws resource class room. I will also remove her from my project and find her a good home were she can just be loved for what ever she is. Thanks and yall have a great rest of the day.


There is no reason to get so upset. We are trying to help you learn and this is part of it. Mistakes happen, we all make them, but we learn from others instead of getting offensive.
 

Kristi23

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Everyone is here to learn and help others. No one attacked you or got worked up.
 

Kjenkins

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I'm not worked up I'm just going to do the right thing for the gecko and the hatchlings. I can assure you I'm not being offensive. Believe me you would know if I was upset I'm not good at hiding it. lol Its just such a touchy thing to talk about albino and I understand why. That being said I think what I disided to do is the best thing to do. No harm in resource special needs children owwing and awwing at them running around in there tank. What it comes down to is I just should not have bought her at all but like most humans I felt sorry for her. She was in a 6x5x5 tub so I'v at least gave her a better life than what she had.
 

Kristi23

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I'm not worked up I'm just going to do the right thing for the gecko and the hatchlings. I can assure you I'm not being offensive. Believe me you would know if I was upset I'm not good at hiding it. lol Its just such a touchy thing to talk about albino and I understand why. That being said I think what I disided to do is the best thing to do. No harm in resource special needs children owwing and awwing at them running around in there tank. What it comes down to is I just should not have bought her at all but like most humans I felt sorry for her. She was in a 6x5x5 tub so I'v at least gave her a better life than what she had.

That's a great thing to do. Many people have geckos that are special to them that are just pets, too. Nothing wrong with having her.
 

swjenx

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Ok look im going to put things straight here and now our geckos live in well taken care of environments with a dry hide and a moist hide with plenty of water and calcium provided and cleaned daily. Each habitat is kept at optimum temperature.

As far as rain ( the pictured gecko) she has not lost a gram of weight this season she has stayed at 60 grams while she is not gravid and gets between 65 and 70 grams while gravid.

So if my wife asks about how to take care of the geckos thats when you can feel free to give that advice until the keep the conversation related to the question.

Coments like the few listed above mine are why i quit coming to this forum. Forums are meant to help and answer questions npt verbal attack and falsly accuse people of mistreating there animals i will leave this to those with common sense to figure out to whom i am talking to to those that lack the ability to make the decision keep moving.

This is posted with the up most respect for those like aliza and many others that have helped my wife.

Lisa im not sure who peed in your wheaties but jesus getting on someone for asking for an opinion on what a gecko is back off.

This is post does not reflect the views of kjenkins or karas geckos just my own

Good day

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Kristi23

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Ok look im going to put things straight here and now our geckos live in well taken care of environments with a dry hide and a moist hide with plenty of water and calcium provided and cleaned daily. Each habitat is kept at optimum temperature.

As far as rain ( the pictured gecko) she has not lost a gram of weight this season she has stayed at 60 grams while she is not gravid and gets between 65 and 70 grams while gravid.

So if my wife asks about how to take care of the geckos thats when you can feel free to give that advice until the keep the conversation related to the question.

Coments like the few listed above mine are why i quit coming to this forum. Forums are meant to help and answer questions npt verbal attack and falsly accuse people of mistreating there animals i will leave this to those with common sense to figure out to whom i am talking to to those that lack the ability to make the decision keep moving.

This is posted with the up most respect for those like aliza and many others that have helped my wife.

Lisa im not sure who peed in your wheaties but jesus getting on someone for asking for an opinion on what a gecko is back off.

This is post does not reflect the views of kjenkins or karas geckos just my own

Good day

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Seriously, no one here accused her of not taking care of the animal. Every post was to help. If you both don't like the answers given, I'm sorry. But this IS a forum for learning for EVERYONE. If you don't like the advice, fine. If you don't want advice, don't ask the questions. There has been nothing mean said. Everything said was to help.
 

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I don't exactly know what I said to raise hackles. I wasn't attacking or abusing anyone. I was simply stating what I would check and do in your shoes. People other than the folks who post questions often read the responses when they have the same or similar questions. By giving as much advice as we can, those people can learn as much as possible about what they should do any why. My advice is only one opinion and there are many out there. There is no need for such defensive hostility when you were offered none to start.
 

Kjenkins

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Ok look just drop it. Matter a fact just delete the thred like it never happend and lets all just go about our merry way. The subject is done. I'm just not even going to go through with trying to find out what she is I already said that. Thats all I wanted to know and thats not the only thing I got. So just delete it I don't want there to be any bad feelings among us. Its just been a bad day just drop it all together. Thank you
 

Kristi23

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This thread will stay unless Thad wants to delete it. It is helpful to other people and there are some that will learn from it.
 

swjenx

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Posting crap like " make sure they have calcium" and "make sure the temp is right" if someone is looking for advice like that they are in the wrong section. That type of advice is is not critical to the question at hand she asked for an i.d. not husbandry advice so unless you are the one weighing the gecko and feeding her and logging how much she eats a day, or someone directly asks for that, or is very new to this keep it to yourself.

Its frustrating to get on here and read posts when every third person makes remarks about husbandry. We understand how important it is that is why we log eveything.

I believe in the rules of most if not all forums is a specific statement about keeping questions and answers related to the topics and posted in the right sections. This not related to the question asked. So get off your high horse and take your head out of your anus go keep it related and if your not being helpful think to yourself should i post this if you have the processing capabilities

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Kristi23

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There will be no more rude and antagonizing comments made to the mods here. If you don't like it, leave.
 

rothsauce

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There is no need to delete the thread.

As it is, you asked what she could be, and those with experience and opinions told you what they would do in your situation; either breed her out, or not. They also gave input as to what other factors might make the gecko hard to identify.

Not everyone knows your experience level, or how much research you've done. They were offhandedly covering the basics, and giving breeders' opinion. All of which impact trying to visually identify a gecko that has hidden genetics.

All might not be what you wanted to hear, but they weren't trying to insult or talk down to anyone. Text doesn't always convey intent very well.
 

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