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Adinar

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So this is what has been going on... I just found one of our girls whom we moved to our new racks about 2 days ago in horrible condition. Tail lost any fat it had, she could barely stand, wouldn't eat, eyes sunken in... as my husband and I were decided what to do she suddenly flipped over onto her back. She righted herself but we knew that wasn't good. We were planning to get her to the vet on Mon, but seeing as she was crashing that quick we decided it was best to put her out of her misery humanely. While we were cleaning out her bin, we found a ball of regurgated shed under her papertowel that we hadn't noticed before.

Now here's what we need opinions on.

We have another one that regurgated shed, not eatting, has lost some weight but not like the poor girl we had to put down. Last time she did go to the bathroom it was runny at best. Also in the same rack, same belly heat at 91 degrees. She has been removed for quarenteen in a hospital tank. Plan on still going to the vet on Mon to see what is going on. Since she hasn't eatting anything there is no samples to take for a fecal. Tried all kinds of different foods. Checked her belly to see if she was ovulating, and nothing.

I'm guessing parasites? Obviously I still plan on taking her since I'm positive she needs to be wormed. *sigh* This has not been a good night.
 

Enigmatic_Reptiles

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Sounds like parasites to me. Obviously without pics it sounds like she became infested. The vet should be able to get a fecal sample without a sample provided. We prefer collecting our own rather than them being brought in.
 

RampantReptiles

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Every vet I have ever gone to will not treat an animal without seeing it first. Doesnt matter if a fecal sample tests positive or what not. Vets make me so mad... worse than doctors trying to suck money out of you. Its ridiculous!
Anyways, so the way I see it at this point you have to take the gecko in to get treatment anyways and the fecal sample can be dropped off anytime, before or after the visit. The sooner the better so they can give you the proper medication while you are there.
 

Adinar

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Every vet I have ever gone to will not treat an animal without seeing it first. Doesnt matter if a fecal sample tests positive or what not. Vets make me so mad... worse than doctors trying to suck money out of you. Its ridiculous!
Anyways, so the way I see it at this point you have to take the gecko in to get treatment anyways and the fecal sample can be dropped off anytime, before or after the visit. The sooner the better so they can give you the proper medication while you are there.

Oh yeah, she's still going but I do see your point. We were lucky to get a fecal sample from her today. Not sure how seeing as she hasn't eatten a thing, but hey I'm not going to ask questions on that. Definetally parasites. It was green. *sigh* I was trying to call a different vet that was closer by an hour for the past few days and it seems they have a nasty habit of closing early and using an answering service when the site their info was posted on says they are supposed to be open. May have to just use our regular vet... but after spending a few hundred dollars on a different animal for treatments that didn't work (he's fine now, surprisingly he fixed the problem himself. Now THAT'S a story.) or gave him stuff for a different problem in general (ie - eye oinment for an infection centered in an area below the eye.) One way or another she is going somewhere tomorrow, I will get her Panacure.
 

katie_

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Every vet I have ever gone to will not treat an animal without seeing it first. Doesnt matter if a fecal sample tests positive or what not. Vets make me so mad... worse than doctors trying to suck money out of you. Its ridiculous!
Anyways, so the way I see it at this point you have to take the gecko in to get treatment anyways and the fecal sample can be dropped off anytime, before or after the visit. The sooner the better so they can give you the proper medication while you are there.

The reason they need to see the animal first is because of irresponsible people who dont want to spend a dime on their pets.
Theyve ruined it for people who have common sense.
Some people with very sick pets just want the medication without paying for the exam and if the vet gave them meds without seeing the patient - and the medication killed it...this leaves the vet in a very sticky situation with the law.
I've seen it first hand. A lot of potential problems are caught in the exam, and additional testing. Heartworm is a prime example.
A lot of people think vets are money hungry pigs. This is the furthest thing from the truth. The vets I know pay their student loans for YEARS. I know a vet whos close to retiring...he drives a toyota eco. He is not rich, and he owns his own clinic.
Sorry to ramble..its a sensitive subject. I just wouldnt want anyone to think theyre vet is ripping them off.
 

RampantReptiles

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I think you are right Katie, for the most part. I find most of the time I go to the vet I might as well have stayed home. And like you said I am very knowledgeable so when vets talk down to me they sound stupid. I think I have just had some bad luck with the local vets.
It completely depends on the vet and the practices of the vet office on whether they are "good". Some people want their pets pampered so much that it can actually be harmful to their health.
Example: My sister was considering getting her cat's micro-chipped so she asked her vet. The vet quoted her an obscence $amount, and said the cats would need to be sedated in order to do the procedure. OK so now my sister works in the vet clinic at the local shelter. The vets said that they could do it for her for free since she works there, and not have to sedate them. The shelter holds a fair/walk for raising money every year and one of the things they do there, on site in front of the owners, is microchip dogs. Microchipping is not an invasive procedure... animals should not need to be sedated to do it...
 

katie_

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I think you are right Katie, for the most part. I find most of the time I go to the vet I might as well have stayed home. And like you said I am very knowledgeable so when vets talk down to me they sound stupid. I think I have just had some bad luck with the local vets.
It completely depends on the vet and the practices of the vet office on whether they are "good". Some people want their pets pampered so much that it can actually be harmful to their health.
Example: My sister was considering getting her cat's micro-chipped so she asked her vet. The vet quoted her an obscence $amount, and said the cats would need to be sedated in order to do the procedure. OK so now my sister works in the vet clinic at the local shelter. The vets said that they could do it for her for free since she works there, and not have to sedate them. The shelter holds a fair/walk for raising money every year and one of the things they do there, on site in front of the owners, is microchip dogs. Microchipping is not an invasive procedure... animals should not need to be sedated to do it...

Agreed. Idiots who neglect their pets make life hard for everyone.
Sounds like you need a new vet though, if theyre talking down to you...
In the regards to the micro chipping, and vet I worked at would give the client the option. Some people would like to wait and get it done while their pets were under for spay or neuter. Its a large needle, and ovbiously more comfortable for the pet when its asleep.
Everyone in my house is chipped. I waited to do the majority of them during surgery, because of the size of the chip...but with that saying
...I did my 4 kg yorkie awake.
We did litters up 9 week old puppies awake.
A ferret awake.
It shouldnt have been an abosulte must, just a recommendation.
 
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Adinar

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Well, just got back with her a bit ago and surprisingly the fecal float found no parasites. But explained that depending on what stage they could be in, they might not come up in the test. Not new info, so we weren't really surprised. She sent home Panacur due to the symptoms we told her she had and recommended that and daily soaks. As for crickets I believe we are done with those and will be moving on to roaches come next reptile show.

I have to say this new vet was pretty top notch. She did an excellent exam on our girl, checked for thing the others never have. Impactation, checked her stomach, lungs... and best part she is completly against sand! I think we found our new vet.
 

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