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geckolover2006

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i do not agree with every thing peta does, but i support everything except their work with pets.
As for the "Mommy Kills" thing, yes, it was a little much, but if mommy wears fur then she diserves it.
This is only my point of veiw, I hope it doesnt offend anyone :)
 
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Cory

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I'm not offended by a point of view really, though I can't say I share it in any way, no way does "Mommy deserve it", how about if Mommy wears leather? Or wears man made materials that were produced using chemicals that when leeched into the environment causes damage to habitats? Where do you draw the line?

The thing is, there is no black and white in these issues, which is what PETA deals in, absolutes... and when you deal in absolutes you deal in a world that pits us versus them, there's no way around it.

As for supporting PETA except for their work with pets, thats a cop-out. I'm sorry but thats kinda like saying the you can support ANY group, even when they do bad things, based on the little good they do. Why not try and find a group that does the things you like without resorting to some of PETA's methods and throw yourself behind them?
 
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geckolover2006 said:
i do not agree with every thing peta does, but i support everything except their work with pets.
As for the "Mommy Kills" thing, yes, it was a little much, but if mommy wears fur then she diserves it.
This is only my point of veiw, I hope it doesnt offend anyone :)
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I am not against wearing fur, hunting, or eating animals. We are human beings and it is in our nature to use animals for food and clothing. I belive that when an animal is killed it should be respected. None of that animal should go to waste. The meat should be eaten, the skin should be used to make clothes, shoes, fur coats. The bones can even be used to make many things. There is noting wrong with being a vegetarian but there is also nothing wrong with following our basic instincts either.
 
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Leather would be discarded if not used for boots, there fore that is much better than fur, where only the hides are used and the reat of the body wasted.
I agree with you, Brandy, but it isnt done like that- the animals are not respected when they are killed, not everything is used.

And what makes us better then any other living creatures so tha we are able to murder thwm for our enjoyment?We could live without killing animals, so why do it?
I would even say most animals are superior to the human race because humans have ruined the earth, and we should be the ones who are killed for food, not harmless little animals.
 
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This is not a perfect world and yes there are people that kill and use just the fur. No, It's not right and I am against it. But you can't put down the entire human race down because of a hand full of disrespectful money grubbers.
Take the rabbit industry for example. rabbit breeders use every part of the animal. the fur is used for clothing, the meat is sold as food, some even sell some of the rabbits as pets. The poo is used for fertilizer. Now a days Most industries work this way not only because it is less wasteful but because they realized that they can make more money this way.

Some people can't live without killing animals and thats just how it is. We are carnivores by nature. some countries don't have tofu lol.
 
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I wasn't going to get into the whole PETA discussion but seeing as I had a bad dealing with them that really upset me I think I'll tell everyone what they did to me. I purchased a gecko over a year ago now well UPS screwed up and sent her 5 day ground instead of overnight mail like they should have. I contacted UPS to find that they wouldn't do anything for me even after telling them that it was a live animal so I contacted PETA to try to get some kind of help to make sure that she arrived alive it was a holiday weekend I contacted PETA on that thursday left a message and they didn't return my call until that following Tuesday. When I finally got in contact with someone all I got was a lecture telling me that no one should own animals and that if they got involved that I would never see my gecko because she would have gone to the nearest animal shelter until she could be released back into the wild. Needless to say I was irate considering that she is captive bred and would have never survived in the wild but the person I spoke with said that at least she'd die in nature like she should, after hearing this I told them not to bother since she'd show up dead or alive the following day after spending 7 days in the mail. Thankfully she showed up alive and is still alive to this day but after this dealing with PETA they lost what little respect I had for them. I'm in no way trying to bash PETA but after hearing that load of garbage it made me wonder if they really have the best interest of the animals in mind.

I find it funny that vegetarians say that we shouldn't eat meat because it used to be a living thing well if you look at it this way plants were living things as well so if you look at it from that aspect then we shouldn't eat at all since everything we consume was living at one point in time. True some might argue that plants don't feel but we don't know that and we're still killing something that was alive at one point in time.
 
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Wretched

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Whee!

First off, thank you brandy, you've made my post a whole lot shorter.

eff you see kay PETA

Really, they claim to do a lot of good, but really, they are just as bad as any black and white idealist. Thier ultimate goal is that no people anywhere should have a pet period. Blind people are obviously enslaving thier seeing eyedogs. my cats are obviously ill trerated, not to mention the collective thousands+ gecko's that this group alone owns and has. Peta would, i can garuntee (unlike my spelling this morning), count all of us as thier enemy.

Yes, animals do need help. But there are millions of other groups out there that arent so well known or mainstream as them fasists. I wear leather, i have a rabbit skin fur coat and well, I love my pets. Deal.
 
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yeah, I just get frustrated talking to people about PETA, specially people who refuse to see the hypocrisy of the group, refuse to see that if they are are a pet owner at any level, they are an "enemy" of PETA. I hate it when people say " Well yes, but they do so much other good that I can overlook the bad"... that just makes me want to growl...lol...

There is a pretty good video by Penn and Teller, yes, Penn and Teller.... about PETA. Its got a little theatrics, maybe even a little of the trademark Penn and Teller histrionics, BUT, it has a lot of facts and interesting info....

Check it out....

I should warn you though, Penn and Tellers humor isn't for everyone, and the language they use may offend some people

http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/709
 
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geckolover2006

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i am having second thoughts about peta, but not wearing fur or eating meat.
 
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geckolover2006 said:
i am having second thoughts about peta, but not wearing fur or eating meat.
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Good to hear... no one is trying to influence your personal ethics and beliefs, rather I think the only thing people are trying to do is have you, and others, question the practises of ANY group that you would like to be associated with.
 
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geckolover2006 said:
i am having second thoughts about peta, but not wearing fur or eating meat.
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Only the utmost respect for your choice of being vegetarian (vegan?) -- I believe that everyone should respect others' lifestyle choices (my ending statement from my original post is my way of taking a stab at PETA lol). But I am very happy to hear you're taking a closer look at PETA's practices. As a whole, they come across as being a great organization, but their overzealous approach and methods in all honesty go against what they say they stand for...
 
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geckolover2006

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I think that Peta may have once been a better organazation, but now alot of the campians are cRaZy.
 
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pawsfoot

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I think it is great for you if you are a vegetarian, you are probably a very health conscious person and there are not many left these days. So Kudos for you on that one. But I truly think that PETA goes way too far. My father was a hunter and my brother and fiance are both hunters. I eat deer meat and rabbit and everything else they manage to get. Nothing gets wasted in our house and my brother has about 10 really nice deer heads and even a huge wild boar head mounted in his house. I know cow and pig are slaughtered for us to eat, but either way an animal is going to die to be eaten, so why does it have to be bought and paid for in a store. Just because it is handed to us on a platter does not mean we should take it. Doing things the old way and obtaining the food ourselves makes me feel like a better person than just paying $20 for a steak at a restaurant. Don't get me wrong I like going to restaurants too. My point is just that every once in a while it is nice to do something for yourself. Would you rather have the lettuce in a bag stuff that who knows what chemicals have been on it, or would you rather pick it out of the ground yourself knowing that no chemicals were sprayed there?
 
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Wretched

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Be bewy bewy quiet....

Hunting is all well and good, but lets face it. if everyone in america decided to go hunt, there wouldnt be enough deer or hunting ranges to support everyone. If you live in a good place for it? Have fun, for those of us who live in large cities? Well, i'll eat my cow, chemicals and all. Then again, my fiance is a vegetarian... ive been eating less meat. The main thing is, people need to respect other peoples decisions. ou are a vegetarian? Vegan? Health reasons? Animal care reasons? thats fantastic. but respect goes both ways. A vast majority of the vegetarians i know like to vilify meat eaters and then turn around and have the audacity to get offended when i call them underweight twig and berry hippies. But back to hunting. i'm not a fan, then again, the Idea of getting up at the bumcrack of dawn, getting out a gun and ambushing a wild animal, isnt my cup of tea. ;) Besides, having a gun is hardly fair right? Yes there is factory farming. No they are not always the best. But the 'needs' (demands?) of our loverly consumer based economy have to be taken into consideration. And without force regulationg food and diet, well, shucks, all this is talk. Hell, folks in pakistan eat leopard geckos as a delicasy. hows that one for ya?


-this has been the ramblings of a slightly loopy rivithead. All the opinions are those of the typist and are subject to change at a moments notice.
 
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geckolover2006

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Wretched said:
-this has been the ramblings of a slightly loopy rivithead. All the opinions are those of the typist and are subject to change at a moments notice.
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lol you should add that to your sig :D
 
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