Phantom + ??? pairing

[sammer021486]

I am looking forward to breeding my phantom, but I do not know what I am going to breed her with. Right now I only have 2 male normals het 100% blizzard and right now with my limited knowledge of genetics I do not want to breed them to her because of all the possible hets and combinations that I will get out of the pairing and placing those unproven geckos out there for pets.

So what would you recommend to breed my phantom with. I would prefer not to have any enigma morphs, but opinions are all welcomed.

My Phantom the day I got her from her previous owner.

 

[BSM]

I would go with a RAPTOR, some kind of stripe or even a tang. It all depends on what you want to get

 

[lillith]

I thought phantoms were tremper mack snows?
or are they tremper TUG snows?

Is there a difference? People have gotten supersnows from TUG x Mack before, right?

I would breed her to a Supersnow, either non het, or het for tremper. Non het would guarantee that whatever albino line she's from, all the offspring would be het for. If I am right in my suspicions about phantoms = tremper, a supersnow het tremper should give you various snows, supersnows, phantoms, and maybe even a supersnow tremper.

 

[BSM]

there tremper TUG snows

 

[sammer021486]

I thought phantoms were tremper mack snows?
or are they tremper TUG snows?

Is there a difference? People have gotten supersnows from TUG x Mack before, right?

I would breed her to a Supersnow, either non het, or het for tremper. Non het would guarantee that whatever albino line she's from, all the offspring would be het for. If I am right in my suspicions about phantoms = tremper, a supersnow het tremper should give you various snows, supersnows, phantoms, and maybe even a supersnow tremper.

The phantom was created by breeding the TUG Snow line with Super-Hypomelanistics Carrot Tails, then breeding the offspring of the Snow/Carrottails to Sunglows (Tremper albino strain). The offspring of the Snow/Carrot/Sunglow were then breed together to get the phantom.

 

[mynewturtle]

TUG line sunglow.

 

[Gazz]

Go with a good looking RAPTOR.couple years you'll get snow RAPTOR a new line.

FIRST.

Talbino eclipse patternless striped X [1C]Talbino snow hyper aberrant = .

Talbino normal HET Eclipse.
Talbino aberrant HET Eclipse.
Talbino hyper aberrant HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino snow HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino aberrant HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino hyper aberrant HET Eclipse.

Body patterns of Striped,Reverse striped,Patternless striped also possible.
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Talbino eclipse patternless striped X [2C]Talbino snow hyper aberrant = .

[1C]Talbino snow HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino aberrant HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino hyper aberrant HET Eclipse.

Body patterns of Striped,Reverse striped,Patternless striped also possible.
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THEN.

[1C]Talbino snow ?????? HET Eclipse X [1C]Talbino snow ?????? HET Eclipse = .

Talbino eclipse normal.
Talbino normal Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse aberrant.
Talbino aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse hyper aberrant.
Talbino hyper aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse striped.
Talbino striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse reverse striped.
Talbino reverse striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse patternless striped.
Talbino patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino eclipse snow.
[1C]Talbino snow Poss-HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino snow aberrant.
[1C]Talbino aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino eclipse snow hyper aberrant.
[1C]Talbino hyper aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino eclipse snow striped.
[1C]Talbino snow striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino eclipse snow reverse striped.
[1C]Talbino snow reverse striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino eclipse snow patternless striped.
[1C]Talbino snow patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
[2C]Talbino eclipse snow.
[2C]Talbino snow Poss-HET Eclipse.
[2C]Talbino snow aberrant.
[2C]Talbino aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
[2C]Talbino eclipse snow hyper aberrant.
[2C]Talbino hyper aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
[2C]Talbino eclipse snow striped.
[2C]Talbino snow striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
[2C]Talbino eclipse snow reverse striped.
[2C]Talbino snow reverse striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
[2C]Talbino eclipse snow patternless striped.
[2C]Talbino snow patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse.

 

[ofek]

God, I love phantoms!!! I gotta get one!

 

[sammer021486]

took me a bit figure out what Gazz was saying but that sounds like a good combination.

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

+1 for Gazz

 

[sammer021486]

would you be able to better explain 1C and 2C. I know that they are referring to "het" and "hom", but that is about all I understand. These are the 2 possible outcomes from the pairing, but I do not exactly understand how the gecko would appear visually.

[1C]Talbino snow patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse
[2C]Talbino snow patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse

 

[Gazz]

would you be able to better explain 1C and 2C. I know that they are referring to "het" and "hom", but that is about all I understand. These are the 2 possible outcomes from the pairing, but I do not exactly understand how the gecko would appear visually.

[1C]Talbino snow patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse
[2C]Talbino snow patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse

[1C]=1 COPY=(HET).
[1C]=2 COPY=(HOM).

There is NO! visual differance between a [1C]&[2C].
The differance is with the offspring outcome when bred.

[1C]Snow X Normal = .

Normal.
[1C]Snow.
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[2C]Snow X Normal = .

[1C]Snow.
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[1C]Snow X [1C]Snow = .

Normal.
[1C]Snow.
[2C]Snow.
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[2C]Snow X [1C]Snow = .

[1C]Snow.
[2C]Snow.
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[2C]Snow X [2C]Snow = .

[2C]Snow.

 

[sammer021486]

thanks for clearing that up Gazz. Now to find a nice RAPTOR to go with her. I have found a few nice Mack Temper Albinos, but no RAPTORs that I like. What makes it even more difficult is that it is now below 0F where I live.