Phoenix Worms

[Popeye]

I was just reading around and found these Phoenix Worms have a LOT of Calcium in them. Do the Leo's eat them? Are they worth buying? Should I stick to basically just Crickets and Mealworms? Same question for Silkworms, would these make for a nice steady diet for my leo? (along with Crickets and possibly Phoenix Worms)

 

[tokayok123]

yes they can be used as a staple they are high in calci , it all depends on what you want to use

 

[Amber7399]

also note that there are several people who say not all of there leo's will eat them, and some will. (my leos won't eat them) if you do a search for phoenix worms. there are several other threads on the topic

 

[nats]

My leos would not eat them. I ended up feeding the wild birds.

 

[Nick44]

I've used phoenix worms before they run kinda small so order the large sized worms. very high in calcium. recommend feeding them to ur female during breeding or mix it in with mealworms. Kinda like taking a daily vitamin haha. From my experience Phoenix worms are an excellent source of food for the leopard gecko. go to www.wormman.com he has tons of diff kinds of feeders. Leopard Geckos love the phoenix worms too the worms are very lively and it interests the geckos as far as my experience. The people that posted above me have diff opinions but all my geckos loved them. Also I've found out that it is wise to alternate types of feeders to ensure ur gecko is getting all the proper nutrients. I usually rotate/mix between mealworms, crickets, phoenix worms and the occasional Waxworm. Too much of the same insect feeder isnt very healthy for ur gecko especially if a vitamin supplement isnt being used.

 

[Popeye]

Exactly my thinking nick. and thanks for all of your opinions on it. I have 2 baby beardies and a baby leo, so I think the small ones would do very well for me. I'm currently using pinhead crickets and wax worms to help fatten them up and make sure they're healthy. The extra calcium from the PW should help their development too.

I appreciate it. I might put in my order today. Will let you know if they eat them or not.

 

[Geck-O]

What is a soldier grub? Is it also a grub of a black soldier fly? Does it have more calcium than a Phoenix worm?
http://www.wormman.com/pd_soldiergrubs.cfm

 

[Popeye]

As far as I know, both are the same thing. They just have a few different names. Don't know why wormman has both listed with different links.

 

[bitterbeauty]

It depends on the gecko. I have one female that will gobble them up and others who wont touch them. They are kinda small and quite expensive as far as staple food goes. But very nutritious. Buy a small amount and test them out. That is what I did. out of 6 geckos I have 1 or 2 geckos that will eat them consistently.

 

[nats]

What is a soldier grub? Is it also a grub of a black soldier fly? Does it have more calcium than a Phoenix worm?
http://www.wormman.com/pd_soldiergrubs.cfm

Phoenix worms are Soldier fly larva (magots).

 

[thekooliest]

My leos would not eat them. I ended up feeding the wild birds.

What a kind deed.

I haven't tried them, I am thoroughly pleased with dubia roaches (don't buy unless you are gonna breed them, too expensive) and mealworms.

 

[daveim]

What I don't get is why the soldier fly larvae are supposedly good composters, while the phoenix worms are the same thing but they don't eat.

 

[Lena]

The thing about phoenix worms is.. I fed them to my first gecko, Valencia, when I first bought her.. She couldn't digest them. They litterally passed right through her system and came out the other end ALIVE!

Absolutely horrifying.

Needless to say, after making sure what I saw was true, I quickly stopped feeding them to her.

 

[daveim]

whoa... sounds like something from a horror movie.

 

[Superior]

Thats creepy...

 

[nats]

The thing about phoenix worms is.. I fed them to my first gecko, Valencia, when I first bought her.. She couldn't digest them. They litterally passed right through her system and came out the other end ALIVE!

Absolutely horrifying.

Needless to say, after making sure what I saw was true, I quickly stopped feeding them to her.

Wow! you just freaked me out!!

That sounds like something out of a David Cronenberg movie

 

[bitterbeauty]

Valencia probably just regurgitated them. It is impossible for the worm to pass through her system and still be alive.

 

[nats]

Valencia probably just regurgitated them. It is impossible for the worm to pass through her system and still be alive.

LOL!! yeah, I thought so too, I just didnt want to say anything!! :main_laugh:

 

[Lena]

No, there was urate. They did pass completely through her.

 

[lillith]

Here's a beautiful idea for those who are into composting kitchen scraps, raising herps, and looking for phoenix worms:

http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/the_biopod/

The blog is ~*enormously*~ informative, too.

Although that "alive" bit kinda weirds me out, too...I was hoping to be helpful, because they are pricey little buggers...