Planning My Breeding For Next Year

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puppiesandkitties

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This year, two hatched (SHTCT x Tremper or Choc. Albino(Likely Tremper)), but they didn't look as I wanted. They are looking normal, and that wasn't what I wanted.

Then I have 3 more eggs in the incubator, and one is gravid (Jungle het. Las Vegas Albino, with same father (SHTCT het. Albino). It is her first clutch, so I am not expecting fertile, just breeding my new virgins for good results next year, knock out that first clutch.

But I want to have some pretty geckos, nice colors, and everything next year. I was planning on paper who should I breed to who to get the prettiest or top-notch babies. (I plan on incubating for females, since I am heavy on males)

Males: 1 x SHTCT, 2 x SHTCTB, 1 X RAPTOR, 1 X Chocolate Albino, 1 x Tangerine Albino (I have a lot of tangs. They are very common where I live, and are mainly male.) Then today, I will be getting a Tremper Albino Male.

Females: 1 x Jungle het. Las Vegas, 2 x Tremper, 2 x Blazing Blizzard, 1 x Super Snow, 2 x Normal, 1 x Blizzard, and 1 x Hypo Tangerine (Getting today with the male Tremper)

My plans are to mate the male tremper to a female, a tangerine male (mostly the tangerine albino) will mate with the Hypo Tangerine...and what should I do with the rest? The RAPTOR will be doing some mating...lots...I want to try to mate it with the Super Snow to put red eyes on it, but the breeder told me that Super Snows have babies that look the same no matter who you mate it to.

Does anyone have any suggestions of who I should mate together? Also I heard incubation temp. can impact the pigments, so for better pigment, for certain types, I should choose the lowest?
 
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thegeckoguy

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These are what id defineately do-

RAPTOR x Tremper

Tangerine Albino x Tremper

RAPTOR x Blazing Blizzard(Im like 99% sure that this cross will eventually make Diablo Blancos)
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Those are the first things i would do.
 
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raininglizard

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Wow thats a lot of questions, I can try to help you out a lil, but i'm sure some more experianced breeders will chime in. You really do have close to an infinate number of possabilties here, it all depends on what you personaly want to produce. From the sounds of it you want to produce something a lil more visualy appealing than a normal so if I were you I would go this route....shctb male x hypo tangerine female.....RAPTOR male x 2 blazing blizard females (assuming they are tremper).....tremper or chocolate or tangerine albino(assuming it is tremper) males x 2 female trempers

All of these should produce some pretty babies in the first generation!! Now looking down the line I personally would>>>RAPTOR male x super snow female, no the offspring should not all look alike, there will deffinatly be some variations in pattern. Also There will be mack het tremper, which will give you quite a bit more options when they get older...you have the option of producing mack trempers, mack supersnow trempers, mack raptors, oh yeah and maybe a super raptor down the line!!!

Actually I am not sure if the temp/pigment thing has been proven yet but I believe that it is the other way around>>>the higher the temp the brighter the color>>>great if you want to produce males!!!
 

godzillizard

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the higher the temp the brighter the color>>>great if you want to produce males!!!
If you sex eggs to be female, and then move them to a male incubator to finish, they will not only be brighter, but they will also have more male hormones than they would if you hadn't moved them to a hotter incubator. They do look nicer than females incubated at the female temps the whole time, but they also have alot of drawbacks...especially if you want to breed those "pretty" females...
 

Gregg M

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godzillizard said:
If you sex eggs to be female, and then move them to a male incubator to finish, they will not only be brighter, but they will also have more male hormones than they would if you hadn't moved them to a hotter incubator. They do look nicer than females incubated at the female temps the whole time, but they also have alot of drawbacks...especially if you want to breed those "pretty" females...

You also run the big risk of having very low hatch rates by using this method. Eggs will not hatch and neonates can hatch deformed. This is not a suggested method to get good looking, bright colored animals to hatch.
The best way to get really bright animals to hatch is to obtain breeders that actually have the genetics to make bright animals.
Even small temperature fluctuations can cause leopard gecko eggs to die and yield weak, deformed hatchlings...

Gotta wonder where some people get their info from...
 
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raininglizard

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Thats exactly why I said "great if you want to produce males". Very good point gregg!!!
 

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