Prooving a Possible Het. is not a Het.

[Hankj]

I think a poll will get more people to offer up their opinions rather than having to type them so:

Let's say I acquire a Giant het. Tremper. I then breed this gecko to a normal and then I have a male possible het.

Now lets say I breed this possible het to a Tremper female or several Tremper females.

How many babies would have to be produced by a possible het. Tremper (male) and several Tremper (females) to prove to you that the possible het. Tremper male is not het. Tremper and you would feel comfortable breeding this male to a Bell female..

Also, if there is a general rule amongst the breeders that you know, please share that as well.

*Edit* question should be: How many non-albino babies need to be produced for you TO breed the male to a Bell?
my bad

 

[Thorgecko707]

One season with five Tremper females that don't produce a single albino would be good for me as long as each female has ten to fifteen hatchlings.

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

A minimum of one full season with multiple visual females. I know you are looking for a specific number...but there is no "safe" number for proving him out. A complete season with 3 Tremper females will suffice.

 

[Hankj]

Thank you all!

I actually have a follow up question for you eyelids. Correct me if I am wrong but the original Giant was a Tremper albino, right? If I am correct, eyelids, does that mean you would never feel comfortable with buying, for breeding purposes, a Giant Bell or a Giant Rainwater?

 

[kkigs]

Thank you all!

I actually have a follow up question for you eyelids. Correct me if I am wrong but the original Giant was a Tremper albino, right? If I am correct, eyelids, does that mean you would never feel comfortable with buying, for breeding purposes, a Giant Bell or a Giant Rainwater?

Hmmm.... by that rationale, then a RADAR or TYPHOON are off-limits, as the Eclipse gene was intermingled in all of that albino-ness as well.

 

[Hankj]

That is true. I am interested to hear his ideas on that.

 

[eyelids]

I just don't do Trempers and believe giants are not genetic so I would never buy a gecko like that...

 

[Hankj]

Makes sense

 

[KelliH]

I think Giants are genetic but I do not believe they are a "co-dom" morph. I think they are line bred.

 

[Landen]

I think Giants are genetic but I do not believe they are a "co-dom" morph. I think they are line bred.

+1

 

[Hankj]

Still feel free to answer the poll if you do not believe giant is codom. The Giant gene could be switched out with the Snow gene if you would like or the eclipse like kkigs mentioned.

 

[kkigs]

I would like to see the evidence that leads anyone to believe that the Giant gene is not co-dominant, contrary to what some of the most respected breeders in the business are saying.

 

[KelliH]

I would like to see the evidence that leads anyone to believe that the Giant gene is not co-dominant, contrary to what some of the most respected breeders in the business are saying.

In my experience breeding them over the past several years, it is my opinion that the Giant is a line bred morph. I know many other respected breeders that agree with me; likewise I am sure there are others that do not. It matters not to me!