Question lol..

[efx*]

Would you consider this a Hybino/Sunglow or just a Tangerine Tremper?

Parents are Tremper albino and Shtctb het Tremper.

 

[godzillizard]

I'd call it a tang tremper and disclose the actual pairing--like you just did I wouldn't call it a hybino/SG unless both parents were from hypo/tang lines. How old is she?

 

[Halley]

Well technically it has no spots, so it could be a hypo

 

[efx*]

I'd call it a tang tremper and disclose the actual pairing--like you just did I wouldn't call it a hybino/SG unless both parents were from hypo/tang lines. How old is she?

She hatched May 16th, 2008

 

[godzillizard]

I guess I'd call it an albino hypo tang (sunglow, hybino), but i'd still let any buyer know that one parent was banded, and not of hypo/tang lines. I've just been thinking about patternless stripe/raptor genetics WAY too much lately... sunglow, hybino and hyglow are all different breeders trade names for their bloodlines/version of the "albino hypo tang"--if you made yours yourself--you can call them what you want

She's gorgeous for being only 2 months old...congrats!

 

[efx*]

Thanks!!

 

[Mateusz Hajdas]

I would call it a hybino... I think she can colour up a bit:main_yes:

 

[paulnj]

Tangerine tremper from HYBINO LINES

 

[yellermelon]

LOL Ok here we go. Isnt the hybino the bell form of the sunglow.....Me I would consider that gecko a tang tremper from sunglow lines... I mean I know hybino means hypo albino...but I was under the impression Kelli tagged hybino as the bell version...

 

[acpart]

I'm a little confused. It was my understanding that a true "hybino" as it was first created required a superhypo parent from Ray Hines line. Since it also seems that this trait acts as dominant or co-dominant (please correct me if I"m wrong) rather than line bred like some of the other hypos, I don't see why it would require both parents to be hypo to truly call it a hybino. I am comfortable calling my hatchlings hybinos since they are the product of a banded tremper albino male crossed with Ray Hines SHTCT and then bred back to the father. I will stop labelling them as hybino if I see compelling info that I should do otherwise, so I'm interested in what other people think.

Aliza

 

[yellermelon]

So hybino can be tremper....

 

[efx*]

So hybino can be tremper....

:main_yes:


But the clutch mate looks completely different.. The clutch mate is definitely a Tangerine tremper...

 

[Baysidegeckos]

I would say Hybino

 

[paulnj]

Darn, I don't have a rainwater hybino... it's a rainwater hypo tang after all

 

[Paco]

Well as Brian stated you need SHTCTB het Albino x SHTCTB het Albino= Hybino, Hyglo, or Sunglow, to get the TRUE morph. Otherwise it's albino with SHTCTB backround. I would like to know myself what Hypo's are considered in the Leo world these days Dominant, Co-Dom. Can you really have a non- hypo Albino(not including a paradox)? Aren't all Albino's technically hypo's since they lack any black coloring? I was allways under the impression Hypo's were a line breed trait. Come on genetics wizards let me know what's up.

 

[godzillizard]

I'm a little confused. It was my understanding that a true "hybino" as it was first created required a superhypo parent from Ray Hines line. Since it also seems that this trait acts as dominant or co-dominant (please correct me if I"m wrong) rather than line bred like some of the other hypos, I don't see why it would require both parents to be hypo to truly call it a hybino.

Your right, if the hypo truly is dom/co-dom, it wouldn't--I was just stuck in the world of the Raptor genetic--I apologize for the confusion. I'm at the point where I feel like I should not call a gecko anything, but just give full disclosure of its parentage. Ideally, I'd like to create a family tree (as far back as possible) for each of my geckos :main_thumbsup: things are getting VERY interesting...some genes just love to snuggle with each other, and some can barely stand each others company lol

you need SHTCTB het Albino x SHTCTB het Albino= Hybino, Hyglo, or Sunglow, to get the TRUE morph. Otherwise it's albino with SHTCTB backround. I would like to know myself what Hypo's are considered in the Leo world these days Dominant, Co-Dom. Can you really have a non- hypo Albino(not including a paradox)? Aren't all Albino's technically hypo's since they lack any black coloring? I was allways under the impression Hypo's were a line breed trait.

Pure-bred would fit better than 'true'. Line bred traits can be "stabilized" (through many generations of line/selective breeding) to the point of acting similar to a mono-recessive. That's whats going on in the (r)aptor world. Hypo simply means "less than normal"--we have no breed standards yet, as these morphs are in constant flux. And since the genes responsible for less black, are also the same genes responsible for more tangerine--that's why hypos look like they do nowadays. Pure-bred would fit better than 'true'. Alot of line-bred (polygenetic) traits can be "stabilized" (through generations of line/selective breeding) to the point of acting like a mono-recessive. That's what I believe is going on in the (r)aptor world

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

The "Super Hypo" part is fairly dominant. I would say if it hypos out it is a Hybino/Sunglow. I do not think it matters what both parents are, because you can hatch Hypos/Super Hypos with only one SH parent. That one looks like it allready has some Hypo influence anyways.