RAPTOR X bell

[Nigel4less]

we seriously do need a sticky on this. it is getting ridiculous. It seems like everyday someone wants to know what the outcome of bell enigmas x trempers or raptor x bells is.

:main_thumbsup:

 

[Nir]

ok.... Let just say you have a temper and a bell (no eclipse).

Tremper X Bell. Babies 100% Het. Tremper and Bell.

Now you cross the babies. Het. Tremper Het. Bell X Het. Tremper Het. Bell.

Babies... You will get Trempers and bells. How can you be 100% sure that this albino is a bell and this one is a Tremper (they are not always easy to tell). They will all be 66% Het. for both albinos. Also you have a 1/16 chance that you will have a homozygous Tremper, bell hybrid #&$*.

Lets say you can tell all the tremper from the bells.

You sell your trempers 66% het. bell and the next person buy one breeds it to a tremper. Lets say that the tremper you sold is 100% het bell now... the new person will have trempers 50% het bell running around and the WORLD WILL IMPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok... I was just mumbling at the end probably misspelled every word... But do you see what I am getting at... it just makes it very confusing for you the costumers and earths safety..........................

whet the problem with tremper het bell?

 

[Nir]

If they are just pets, why not breed a raptor to a normal? Your going to get the same thing visually... without the dirty genetics.

because I want too bread the babis and get RADARs

and what you say if Iwill bread snow eclips X bell I will get 50% normal DH and 50% snow DH, and when i bread to snows i can get snowRADAR and SS RADAR right?( RADARs without the eclips)

and can i call bell eclips RADAR or tremper eclips RAPTOR?

TNX

 

[Wandering Paddle]

YOU WONT KNOW WHICH ONES ARE TREMPER OR BELL OR BOTH.
If you breed the normal babies back to each other you wont know what you have. it is that simple, it defeats everything that everyone is doing to produce a pure Bell Eclipse. It undermines the whole principle.

I do not recommended muddying up the genetics by producing double heterozygous bell and tremper animals. I highly disagree with breeding those double hets back together. In the end it is your call.

 

[Nir]

OK TNX everyone in the end Iam going on a mack RADAR project, I will buy too my female amack eclips male.

and again TNX

 

[Mel&Keith]

All you have to do to make them the "correct way" is prove out an Eclipse to not be het Tremper. Then you can breed it to a Bell and get het Radars.

 

[Gazz]

There's no need to cross albino strains.All you need is a Eclipse type NON HET Talbino ideally male.Then let the male Eclipse type have his way with about 5 Balbino types.This will give 100%HET Balbino,Eclipse offspring.Grown them up then back breed the offspring to each other.

So somthing like.

MALE.
Eclipse type.

FEMALES.
Balbino normal
Balbino sunglow.
Balbino super snow.
Balbino enigma.
Balbino striped.

= a good project.

 

[Nir]

we dont have here sunglows, ss, ssbell, bell enigma, bell stripe and the mack is the first eclips her. and what the % of babis I will get from mack DH bell and eclips X mack DH bell and eclipes.


and what you are saying?



TNX

 

[Micka]

Regarding Eclipse of the gene is linked to gene Tremper ancestry are part of an eclipse (raptor) is of Tremper, which is to say that the radar and the Typhoon are descendants of the line Tremper, of a way or another (logical).

Exe:

Radar x Raptor >>>>> give of homozygous baby Eclipse (Tremper) het for both strains of albinism (Het Tremper Albino Het Bell Albino)>>>> it are bound by a single gene (Eclipse) on the descent Tremper, which explains that if you coupled a RAPTOR (Eclipse Tremper Albino) with a subject homozygous Bell Albino you'll individuts of heterozygotes for the two phases mentioned.

Other exe

Bell X RAPTOR >>>>>> baby gives 100% het RAPTOR double Het RADAR and it is quite possible to leave the small RADAR 66% het RAPTOR on the second generation because the gene eclipse (Tremper) is identical.

N 'is not it good ?

Many Thanks
Micka

 

[Gazz]

and what the % of babis I will get from mack DH bell and eclips X mack DH bell and eclipes.

Snow HET Balbino,Eclipse X Snow HET Balbino,Eclipse = .

Normal Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Aberrant Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Jungle Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Striped Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Reverse striped Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Patternless striped Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Balbino normal Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino jungle Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino reverse striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Eclipse normal Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse aberrant Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse jungle Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse striped Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse reverse striped Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse patternless striped Poss-HET Balbino.
Balbino eclipse normal.
Balbino eclipse aberrant.
Balbino eclipse jungle.
Balbino eclipse striped.
Balbino eclipse reverse striped.
Balbino eclipse patternless striped.

Snow Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Snow sberrant Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Snow jungle Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Snow striped Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Snow reverse striped Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Snow patternless striped Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Balbino snow Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino snow aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino snow jungle Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino snow striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino snow reverse striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Balbino snow patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Eclipse snow Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse snow aberrant Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse snow jungle Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse snow striped Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse snow reverse striped Poss-HET Balbino.
Eclipse snow patternless striped Poss-HET Balbino.
Balbino eclipse snow.
Balbino eclipse snow aberrant.
Balbino eclipse snow jungle.
Balbino eclipse snow striped.
Balbino eclipse snow reverse striped.
Balbino eclipse snow patternless striped.

Super snow Poss-HET Balbino,Eclipse.
Balbino super snow Poss-HET Eclipse.
Eclipse super snow Poss-HET Balbino.
Balbino eclipse super snow.

I see no real point in percentages at the end of the day you get what your given:main_thumbsup:.

 

[Nir]

from where the stripe?