Rare Blue Belly Pastel Leopard Gecko Morph

Kristi23

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Yes, thank you though. It is hard to find much info on them!
That is because most breeders in the US don't believe it's anything new. Your best bet will be info from overseas. Or discuss it with breeders around here while everyone tries to figure out if it's anything.
 

FunWithLife

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That is because most breeders in the US don't believe it's anything new. Your best bet will be info from overseas. Or discuss it with breeders around here while everyone tries to figure out if it's anything.
I agree.

First I would like to say I am not an authority on pastels, or leopard geckos. I research as much as possible and speak with the best sources possible and that is all I can say about the information I present. I also question every source, whether it be reputable or not, big breeder or small, american or from overseas, and cross reference to ensure a high level of accuracy in anything I speak publically about.

I am not here to cause controversy or open up a board of discussion for individuals to make claims without immediately supporting them. Science is always evolving and changing, so we must be flexible ourselves. Also, we should not make claims that involve people who are not present to defend themselves.

That being said, here is where the pastels are at through what I can determine through my research.

UPDATE: Since this was posted I have researched and reached out to many people who have pastels and are working with, within the United States as well as many countries overseas; this included the ones who have had them the longest and done the most test breeding. In regards to whether or not there is a dominant, incomplete-dominant, or other allele associated with the pastels from tremper is still unclear. I cannot defend either side of the argument, or disclude any outcome that has yet to be presented at this time because, for one, the pastel leopard gecko genome has yet to be sequenced so all is speculative based on test breeding projects with limited documentation at this point, and also the original pastels from tremper popped up randomly in a group of tremper eclipse geckos. Also, if I am not mistaken, in hopes of keeping his bluebellies, tremper held back on outcrossing them. There is so much polygenic influence already in those animals that it will make it very difficult to conclude decisively on how inheritance occurs. Also, as with certain alleles such as white and yellow, levels of expression may vary, making a decisive hypothesis even more difficult.

So basically, the answer is ... there is no answer yet. Until we know more, it is all speculative on both ends until appropriate documentation can be presented, in an appropriate manner. It doesn't mean we can't discuss it. We just need to be respectful to everyone involved in the discussion.

Through my personal experience with pastels, I am now able to notice characteristics that seem exclusive to just these animals; these are just my observations; once again I am not claiming an authority on the subject. The offspring are extremely easy to pick out from non-pastels of the same morphology. Also, head markings, as well as a very light head pigment are very common among them. Seems like there heads are mix-matched up from lighter geckos. What does this mean? It could mean anything at this point. Some polygenic lines show exclusive characteristics not seen elsewhere and are not associated with a dominant, incomplete-dominant or recessive allele; so there is always probabilities to consider.

One thing I can say, is that I have seen many rare animals throughout my travels filming and pastels that I see in person with my own eyes are something to behold, whether it be polygenic or some sort of dominant allele. They are beautiful animals and I feel privileged to be able to work with them. The controversy and comments regarding them I am blind to at this point, because I am blinded by the beauty of these pastels. Yes, I could focus on the bad things, but why? Even what people are considering the 'worse' outcome for the pastels, is still worth every penny and every bit of time I have spent on them.

Thanks for taking an interest in the pastels and me and my fiance's funwithlife project. It is greatly appreciated. We especially appreciate the feedback.

We hope to share more about our experiences and recent events in the reptile community.

Regards,
Mic(FunWithLife.org)
 

Kristi23

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That's why I said it's hard to find info in the US. Breeders are not agreeing on it at all.
 

FunWithLife

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In this recent video we give an update on our research on the rare pastel leopard gecko genetics and provide some information for those who are thinking about buying them or may have already gotten them.

[video]https://youtu.be/QGtTM36yPcA[/video]



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-Mic(FunWithLife)
 
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