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dsreptiles

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Well my fiance and I just decided we were going to purchase a Boxer pup to add to our family. So we went online to a "credible" dog website which we knew was over priced but came with fantastic gurantee's. We put a 50% deposit down ($610) and when the pup hit 8 weeks we were supposed to place the other $610.00 as the puppy cost was $1220.00. We in the matter of a day the transmission blew up in our car and our sewage pipe has roots grow into it which isn't covered by our homeowners policy. So the next day we called back expecting to lose 25% of our deposit (which the guy told us on the phone). And they told us we'd be losing 25% of the price of the puppy and they told us the puppies cost was $1370.00 so we'd only be getting around $270.00 back. In one day a 300+ cut. Now we're stuck with one vehicle in the shop untill we pay and forced to use the local conveinant stores bathroom all because this place wouldn't honor us with the original deal. :( So please if you are going to concider getting a puppy from one of the most prestigious Puppy websites on the net make s ure you're ready to commit and open your pockets and your butt wide because all the care about is making a buck even though their slogan is "we aim to put puppy mills out of business" It's been the worst week I've had in a long time now I must put a lot of my reptiles up for sale that I don't want to sell just so I can cover the cost of all these repairs. It wouldn't be a big deal if I was in work but being on workmans comp I only get 60% of my original income which is killing me :( Well I'm done venting. So if anyone needs any male crested geckos, 2.0 Mack Snow, 1.3 ATB's or 1.1 Colombian Redtail Boas please contact me with offers. (everything is breedable size and was fit into plans for this year which are now ruined.
 

Alusdra

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Probably you should post your selling ones in another thread- unlikely anyone's going to buy from a thread called 'rip of' lol. As for the puppy- that's a ridiculous price. I practically paid that much for a robotic dog that can check your email, be remote controlled or walk around autonomously while having a conversation with your in English or Spanish. :main_no: I know you're already kicking yourself- but I have no doubts you could have found a boxer or boxer mix puppy at a shelter close to you for less than what you lost, maybe even for less than what you're getting back. Heck, maybe for free...
 

KelliH

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Please consider rescuing a boxer. There are so many boxers out there that need good homes, it's just so sad. What usually happens is that people buy them when they are cute little puppies but don't realize that boxers need a ton of discipline and training. When the boxers grow larger but don't outgrow thei puppy stage, they get dumped at resues. These dogs have so much energy, they need lots of stimulation or else they will get bored and then you will have a problem. Anyway, do a search for a boxer rescue in your area, or look on http://www.PetFinder.com.

Boxers are wonderful dogs for the right person. I love my two clowns so much, they can always put a smile on my face and make me laugh!
 
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dragonflyreptiles

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I agree with Kelli, I met Hanna and Juno and Hanna is the one Kelli got from a rescue and they are both doll babies, I fell in love with them. I think a rescue is the way to go and you save money since they come with all of their vet work.

Sorry you are losing that much of a deposit, did you sign a contract, I don't think thats right to lsoe that much over 24 hours. I have given back deposits after 3 weeks if someone changed their mind. If there is no contract stating you would lose it you may be able to do something, maybe not.
 

Haroldo

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I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a "kennel" that does business online, but please don't generalize us all. On one hand, shi* happens, and sometimes situations change where one can't do what one aimed at. On the other hand, if you're dealing with dogs that cost you $100's of dollars to get ready for a new home and sell for even more than that, you do/ought to be compensated for your time. We have a [starting] Kennel of Perro de Presa Canario. You can't get a dog from us for less than $1500 and if someone put a deposit on a dog, and backed out for any reason, we'd have to take into consideration two things: 1)The dog could've been sold to another suitable and ready party. 2)The time involved in consulting with the buyers at hand. In any case, it's certainly bad business (and a poor demonstration of ethics) for a breeder to change provisions in (even a verbal contract) and even worse to change prices. Again, sorry for your bad experience, but not every breeder that does business online is like that...
 
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dsreptiles

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I did rescue a boxer, she's a fawn, and her name is Roxie. She was badly abused as a puppy and left for dead in miami. She's now 6 month old, very playful and very healthy. With the spare change i was refunded it pretty much covered her so now I just figure I paid a ton for a beautiful rescue :) And she came, spade, 100% healthy w/ a free vet exam, micro chipped and the whole nine. I got her from Coastal Boxer Rescue here in central florida and couldn't be happier.

And about the "compensation for your time" comment....ha.. sorry but that dog went back up on the net the SAME day and resold the SAME day so now they'd made at least a couple grand on that dog oh im sure there pocket and brains are really aching... or as the "kennels" like to call "overhead" I work for a large family business I KNOW all about overheard and in my business we takes cuts all the time because of customers faults but however thankfully Florida law doesnt allow such huge "overhead" charges so my bank has gotten most of my money refunded, because taking 80% of a deposit is unethical and illegal.

No offense Haraldo you could be the most ethical guy out there but from now on its rescues and going directly to the breeder for me :)
 

Haroldo

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dsreptiles said:
And about the "compensation for your time" comment....ha.. sorry but that dog went back up on the net the SAME day and resold the SAME day so now they'd made at least a couple grand on that dog oh im sure there pocket and brains are really aching... or as the "kennels" like to call "overhead" I work for a large family business I KNOW all about overheard and in my business we takes cuts all the time because of customers faults but however thankfully Florida law doesnt allow such huge "overhead" charges so my bank has gotten most of my money refunded, because taking 80% of a deposit is unethical and illegal.

No offense Haraldo you could be the most ethical guy out there but from now on its rescues and going directly to the breeder for me :)

In your situation, the "kennel" really needs to rethink their way of doing business. What I was referring to earlier (about compensation), generally had to do with situations where the dog was held for longer periods of time. In your case, we would've probably just refunded the entire amount. Like I said before, shi* happens and being another human being allows you to understand that. Don't know about the people you got "did" by though...Apparently they operate on diffirent standards. With our kennel (we breed and keep the dogs ourselves in a home setting), there is little overhead, so that wouldn't ever be the reason for penalizing a customer for having a dog held (and backing out). Indeed, I'm glad the law is lending a hand to you as changing figures after a verbal agreement is quite unethical--but proving violation is difficult mostimes.

No offense taken. When people are local or even want to come up and see our dogs, how they are kept, etc., they are invited over. By all means, its best to avoid the puppy mills and go to the people directly. Sorry this supposed "kennel" left you with a bad taste in your mouth. If you're ever in the Chicago area, feel free to shoot me a PM and you can come check out our dogs. We take care of our dogs better than most people take care of their children:main_yes: .
 
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dsreptiles

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Well you definatly seem quite a bit more ethical if we are ever looking for a high end show dog I will keep you in mind rather than a website that rhyme with "penny bets" being that you're also a kennel I'm sure you'll pick that up right away haha. But we were looking forward to have a nice beautiful registered "guarantee'd for life puppy" but after what we saw already and what I've read since I'm sure that guarantee was b/s as well.
 

FelanMoira

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Heck, there's a good chance, there never was a puppy to sell to you in the first place. Alot of sites are popping up, swiping photos from real breeders and sites and using them on fake sites and stealing peoples' money left and right. My horse trainer also breeds Jack Russell terriers and had posted pics of her current puppies for sale on a classified website 2 years ago and still finds ads online and websites online with her puppies pics up! We go through every 6 months and look for jack russell ads and email them and call them and threaten suit if the ads aren't taken down. She and her husband are on disability and the cost of the lawyers just isn't worth it when it's always out of state.

Glad ya found a good dog at the rescue though, hun!
 

Halley

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Yeah...that bits, I'm really sorry this happened to you, and generally the unethical people, will ruin it for the more ethical people. But I hope everything works itself out of you.
 

boutiquegecko

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I second, and third adoption always as a first choice. And I'm so happy you did do a rescue.
That said I wouldn't think those people were ethical. If you really want a dog from a breeder you should look for a local kennel first so you can go check them out. Also check the bloodlines, if they ofa thier dogs (certified hip check through the ofa foundation), do any other health clearances, tempermant checks etc. If they have a good rep and standing with the boxer club of america, both parents akc registered. Are they built correctly for the breed. There's more to it than putting two dogs together if you want to get into breeding. For a pet dog though, that is way to much money. In general a "pet" quality puppy from a reputable breeder is around $800.
 

JordanAng420

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boutiquegecko said:
I second, and third adoption always as a first choice. And I'm so happy you did do a rescue.
That said I wouldn't think those people were ethical. If you really want a dog from a breeder you should look for a local kennel first so you can go check them out. Also check the bloodlines, if they ofa thier dogs (certified hip check through the ofa foundation), do any other health clearances, tempermant checks etc. If they have a good rep and standing with the boxer club of america, both parents akc registered. Are they built correctly for the breed. There's more to it than putting two dogs together if you want to get into breeding. For a pet dog though, that is way to much money. In general a "pet" quality puppy from a reputable breeder is around $800.

Excellent post, Mario! :main_thumbsup:
 

fallen_angel

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Sorry to hear about such an aweful situation, I wish the best for you and your wife!!! I feel for ya, we have been in a rough financial position for the last few months and things have just now started looking up this past week.
 
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DillanSimpson

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No I just don't care for them.They bark all the time and there ugly.


Thats just me I am only a snake lover every body has there on things.:banana:
 
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GeckoTeach

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Kelli love those bulldogs, the white one is a beaut, but I bet they both have fun personalities
 

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