Should I hold these back? Hmm?

PaulSage

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Alright guys, I'm really debating on the Bell Patternless project. I have 2.9 (I think) proven double hets who bred last year. Visually, they all look really normal. I would like to keep working with this project, but I really need to cut back on my leopard geckos because I just have too many and I'm getting into a few other species. Here are the ones I had labeled "holdbacks" but considering how ... I just don't know.

Anyway, I was planning on keeping 1.2 dh's from last year, but I'm debating on replacing the 1.0 with this guy:

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He's a dh from a Bell Hybino bred to a Patty 66% p.h. Bell I got from Jeremy, thus not as related to the other animals in the project. Plus, he's a lot prettier than my original dh male. BUT, I'm only keeping one male dh and this one isn't proven...

Then there's these 1.2 Patternless that are 66% ph Bell. (Male is 1st)

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(the last one is in shed)

They are really nice Patternless (it's hard to tell because my camera REALLY sucks).

And these 1.3 Bells that are 66% ph Patternless. (Male is 1st again)

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I just don't know what to do with them and I need to make up my mind. I really don't want to produce a bunch of double hets and possible double hets next year. The Bells that are coming out of this project are pretty nice. I've gotten a lot of nice tangs and jungles / partial stripes out of them. I kinda want to keep that male Bell 66% Patternless and try to find a nice striped Bell female for him. I think it would be a good idea to do one outcross of one Bell 66% Patternless female to a KILLER male Patternless with insane carrot tail from Marcia. That would hopefully prove out the female and make some decent, outcrossed double hets. As for the rest, I was thinking of breeding the male Bell to one female patternless, and the male patternless to one female bell. I'd probably breed whichever dh male I end up keeping to the two proven dh females and the extra Bell female.

You know, I'm kind of retarded.

Thinking out loud has helped me make up my mind. I just needed to sort through them and play with the numbers a bit. I guess my only issue left to debate is which male dh to keep. I'd have to check "the book" but I think the male pictured above had a kink-tailed sibling :( What do you guys think about that?

Damn, I typed all of that so fast my arthritis in my hand is killing me.

Oh yeah, one last picture that isn't related to the BPA project...

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It's really hard to get an accurate picture of her (because my camera sucks) but the gecko on the right is an olive green - khaki color. She's pictured next to a SHTCT het RW (Bozo X Flamin' Janis!!) for comparison. She really is greenish looking and her feet are spotted. No really, she's green. I'm thinking of calling her a SHO like the Ford Taurus from the late 90's. Does that make me a dork?

Can you guys tell I took too much Sudafed? I have a sinus infection and probably either Bronchitis or Pneumonia. Fuck.
 

Mel&Keith

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I didn't actually read most of that because anything that begins with "DH" confuses me so I just looked at the pictures. I sure do like those stripe and jungle Bells though. I'm sure none of this response helped you in any way...
 

KelliH

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Paul, I'd be interested in working with any of the Patternless 66% Het Bell and Bell 66% Het Patty if you don't keep them. I would use the male DH you got from Jeremy if I were you, if you are going to continue with the project, he is nice.
 

Grinning Geckos

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LOL...You were kinda all over the place with that!

I'd have a hard time deciding. Glad I'm not you. Heehee

I like the DH you got from Jeremy, and not being related is a good thing.

Your male Patty is very nice looking for a "normal" patty ... but nothing wrong with one of Marcia's killers.

I love that Bell male! You could easily use him in some other project.

If you're going down to 1.2 on this project, I think I'd keep Jeremy's DH, and one patty female, and one bell female.
 

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