Super nova, super raptor, or?

[cathis]

So, here's the babies in question, now that I have twins and better pics of them. Pairing was Mack RAPTOR and Enigma Mack het RAPTOR. They have shown circling in the dark of the morning (5 AM, ugh) when my husband turned the light in the room on suddenly.
They have no visible color on them, other than their organs. I am assuming NOVA because of the enigma, but? If anyone has any pics of either of these types as a baby and adult(or any other ideas on what they might be) I'd appreciate it.
I am NOT planning on selling these when they reach adulthood unless they turn out to be male (incubated low female) but can anyone give me a ballpark on how much super nova or super raptor geckos have gone for? (Husband doesn't "get" lizards unless I explain them in terms of $$ or rarity. Especially baby lizards that kind of look like maggots with legs )

Twins (Castora and Polluxa? What the heck can I name female twins??)

Red eyes

 

[tiedxupxinxknots]

well they are very pretty congrats on them! i am not very familiar with enigma raptors, but they look like super raptors to me, as for the price i seen some reputalbe breeders sell them for 100- 150 maybe even more

 

[geckogirl3]

i tried leopard gecko morph calculator and got (very long)

6.25% Super Snow Enigma (1 Copy) Tremper Albino het Eclipse het Murphy Patternless
6.25% Super Snow Enigma (1 Copy) het Tremper Albino het Eclipse het Murphy Patternless
6.25% Super Snow Enigma (1 Copy) Tremper Albino het Eclipse
6.25% Super Snow Enigma (1 Copy) het Tremper Albino het Eclipse
12.5% Mack Snow Enigma (1 Copy) Tremper Albino het Eclipse het Murphy Patternless
12.5% Mack Snow Enigma (1 Copy) het Tremper Albino het Eclipse het Murphy Patternless
12.5% Mack Snow Enigma (1 Copy) Tremper Albino het Eclipse
12.5% Mack Snow Enigma (1 Copy) het Tremper Albino het Eclipse
6.25% Enigma (1 Copy) Tremper Albino het Eclipse het Murphy Patternless
6.25% Enigma (1 Copy) het Tremper Albino het Eclipse het Murphy Patternless
6.25% Enigma (1 Copy) Tremper Albino het Eclipse
6.25% Enigma (1 Copy) het Tremper Albino het Eclipse

 

[Thorgecko707]

Super raptors? Very nice

 

[cathis]

i tried leopard gecko morph calculator and got (very long)

Yeah, I tried that too, but without a "het RAPTOR" option I get bogged down in fiddly poss. het percentages. I love them deeply either way, and am going to be taking lots of pics as they grow to document what are likely to be fascinating color changes.

 

[Thorgecko707]

Just enter het Tremper and het eclipse

 

[geckogirl3]

what i tried

 

[Thorgecko707]

Since they have solid eyes and are albino I think it's safe to say super raptor.

 

[cathis]

Just enter het Tremper and het eclipse

Well, if the male is mack enigma het raptor, that'd be tremper, patternless, and eclipse hets, right? And if the female is mack RAPTOR, well, that's an option.
When I entered those two things in the calculator, I got a whole page of possibilities. Literally. 1.56 and 3.125 %, 30 or so choices. Mindnumbing.

 

[Thorgecko707]

Patternless reverse stripe orange line is what you are looking for. Patternless means Murphy. Post pix of the parents.

 

[cathis]

Dad: (Enigma mack het raptor. has some shatter-eye/very partial snake eye)

Mom: Mack RAPTOR.

 

[LZRDGRL]

They are very beautiful! :main_thumbsup: I hope they didn't hear you calling them "maggots with legs" :main_laugh: I'd also say Mack Super Snow Raptor. Novas have some circles on their backs. They're not entirely patternless.

Chrissy

 

[cathis]

They are very beautiful! :main_thumbsup: I hope they didn't hear you calling them "maggots with legs" :main_laugh: I'd also say Mack Super Snow Raptor. Novas have some circles on their backs. They're not entirely patternless.

Chrissy

Thanks! I assure you, it wasn't me that called them that.. I can't wait until husband sees our (yet imaginary) human baby.. he better say something nicer!

 

[whin]

i think super raptor

 

[RampantReptiles]

(Husband doesn't "get" lizards unless I explain them in terms of $$ or rarity. Especially baby lizards that kind of look like maggots with legs )

LMAO - I know the feeling when I try to explain stuff to my family...
they say things like "I like the speckled one"
I say "yeah but that one isnt worth as much..."

haha anywho very nice hatches congrats!

I would ask again after they have shed a few times (in a month or two). Its so hard to tell without any obvious defining pattern. They look like super raptors but they could be super novas...

 

[cathis]

Here's one of the twins after their first shed. Almost no difference, though I *think* i can see some spots coming in around the shoulder area? I can tell when these guys need to poop because they are so SEETHROUGH, very, very odd.

 

[lillith]

Look like super raptors to me, too.
The picture just posted looks like a hint of patternless stripe. I concur with Chrissy that they're probably mack as well.
Female twins:
Isis and Nephthys (Egyptian)
Phoibe and Hilaeira
(the last two are related to the Castor and Pollux story)

 

[cathis]

Shed #2. Both babies look pretty much like this, though this one's patterning is ever so slightly darker. They DEFINITELY have enigma in them.

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Those are Dreamsickles aka Mack Tremper Eclipse Enigma. As far as price they vary so widely that I have seen them for 100-600. Last year I was selling Dreamsickles for 4-500 and Super raptors for 600 and super novas for 750.

 

[cathis]

Cool! I love my cute little babies, and my husband has come around to love them too, he checks in on them every day. I was originally hoping for some Dreams this year, so I am happy to have them! Definite keepers. I am going to photograph them as they age, since they look SO different from birth to adulthood!