Super Raptor?

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Nigel4less

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Wow!!! Just when I thought I like DBs I think these SSRs take the cake!
 
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sbord_tom

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so he release's an all white gecko with red eye's and call's it a DB and then shows i white gecko with red eyes and calls it a super raptor kind of fishy. what happens when you bread a DB to Super raptor ? I gess only time will tell.
 
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monkeygirl

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i thought people had already created that? i swear i saw kelli post one?
 

trizzypballr

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Ive seen snow RAPTORS, thats actually albertos pic of one on rons site, but ive never seen an SS Raptor. Im not a big fan of how its pure white like the DB, Id rather just have a snow RAPTOR than a SSR
 

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It'll definitely be impressive if it stays completely patternless. Nonetheless, the steps it takes to create it is a feat in it's own!
 
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Nigel4less

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Im curious whether Ron did this project himself or did he work with other breeders?
 

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This is what I know.
I am sure there are a lot of people that bred super snow to raptor up to date but I think no one has a super raptor other then me and Ron as of now. Last year I hatched a mack raptor and a mack eclipse, those were the first in the world to be hatched. This year Ron hatched what we think to be a super raptor just 3 weeks before me, the difference this far is that the super is not showing any pattern at all compared to the mack raptor and compared to the super snow albino which is extremely cool for me. It may look the same as the diablo blanco but the genetic is far more advanced, diablo blanco is a raptor blizzard, the super raptor is a super snow raptor.
Here comes the cool part, and this is what this project was all about, at least for me, how about a super eclipse, what this gecko will look like. At this point we have a great hope that will be a whole black gecko with black eyes, whole black including tale and head, this is going to be super cool if we hatch one.
Here is as close as I got as of today, I hatched this cool eclipse mack snow, look at it in comparison to the super raptor and the normal raptor, it is awesome.
Alberto
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paulnj

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Alberto, That super raptor and eclipse mack snow are hot! I can't wait to see how both progress!
 

trizzypballr

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Im confused, why would the eclipse gene cause the gecko to be all black? Wouldnt it look just like a normal super since they already have eclipse eyes?
 

A&M Gecko

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Im confused, why would the eclipse gene cause the gecko to be all black? Wouldnt it look just like a normal super since they already have eclipse eyes?
Is not the eclipse gene that should cause the gecko to be all black, but the Mack snow gene, the eclipse should just lock in the color. If you have followed my patternless stripe project you know that stripe X reverse stripe produces the patternless stripe, which in albino form, is and aptor. When I started hatching mack striped the mack snow gene makes this animals look very unique because they either are all white with the black stripe or all black with the white stripes depending if they are striped or reverse striped, now immagine a patternless stripe mack, is just by logic that this animal should be all black and as I showed it it proved out to be as hatchling. What I have found is that the black in to the patternless stripe macks or the eclipse macks fades out as they grow, making the animal grow a pattern, just like a non albino raptor (eclipse). Now if the albino super snow combined with the raptor makes the animal not grow any pattern as it becomes older, the eclipse gene, which is the non albino raptor gene, should make the animal keep the color through out his life, this means if the gecko will be born all black with black eyes should stay like that even as an adult. This is my thinking, sorry if it gets a little confusing with the genetics here, but I assure you I will have fun proving this theories out, :main_yes:
Alberto
 

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