There really are STUPID people in this world

Jeanne

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Dog-maim suspect freed
By LISA REDMOND and ROBERT MILLS, Sun Staff



LOWELL -- After viewing the jagged wounds of a maimed pit-bull puppy -- whose ears were savagely cut off -- an outraged veterinarian said he wished he could do the same to the alleged human perpetrator, the dog's owner.

"It wasn't done quickly," said Dr. Sarfraz Mian of the slow process to cut the puppy's ears with scissors. "I think (the owner) kept cutting in a line, and it must have taken him some time to cut it. It makes you mad. It makes you sick to your stomach, because you see a puppy of 5 to 6 weeks of age that is in severe, severe, severe pain and bleeding.

"I wish we had the right to do the same thing to this fella," Mian added. "I think that would be perfect punishment, even if it's barbaric."

Yesterday, Luis Negron, 20, of 142 Concord St., Lowell, was released on personal recognizance after his arraignment in Lowell District Court on charges of felony animal cruelty. Negron pleaded innocent to both counts, and Judge James McGuinness released him on the promise that he "not be abusive of any animals."

Negron was arrested Sunday afternoon when police were called to the Concord Street home by a neighbor who reported hearing the puppy's cries.

There, police found a pair of puppy ears on a makeshift operating table made out of a beer case. Police also found scissors and bloody surgical gloves nearby.

In the basement of the home, officers found a crying pit-bull puppy in a baby stroller covered with a blanket. The puppy was bleeding from both ears, which had been sliced off.

The wounded puppy, along with a second, unharmed puppy from the same litter, were confiscated and taken to Merrimack Animal Hospital for treatment, where they were placed in Dr. Mian's care.

Mian said the wounded puppy is now doing well, despite the fact that it is old enough to have felt the pain of the operation just as intensely as any human would.

He said a dog's nervous system is not fully developed until about a week after birth, which is why tails and nails are often clipped during that first week. Any time after that, Mian said, such procedures require general anesthesia, painkillers, antibiotics and lots of tender loving care during recovery.
Peter Gollub, MSPCA's director of law enforcement, said the MSPCA does not often receive reports of this type of animal abuse. He said people clip a pit bull's ears for looks or function.

"If the dog is for fighting, then the ears are cut so there is nothing for another dog to grab onto,'' Gollub said.

He said the responsible thing is for the owner to take the animal to a vet to have the ears modified in a healthy way.

Despite the ordeal, the maimed puppy is recovering well, Main said. His chances of being a wonderful pet are also good, said the vet.

"I don't think the puppy will remember (the ordeal) if he's raised humanely and gently with care," Mian said. "He's already happy and perky and friendly and wants to cuddle with you."

Mian said the hospital will care for the two dogs until Negron signs them over to the city, or the hospital gets a court order giving it permission to put them up for adoption.

When that time comes, Mian said there will be a screening process to make sure the pit bulls get good owners.

If convicted of animal cruelty, Negron faces up to five years in state prison or 2 1/2 years in jail or $2,500 fine or both. The cropping charges carry a fine of not more than $250.

Negron's next court date is Oct. 5.




I can't beleive they released him because he promised not to hurt other animals :main_angry:
 

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That is simply rediculous! I have nothing against the act of cropping ears or docking tails. But doing it yourself is INSANE. Not to mention, the way he did it was so abusive and ...creepy!
 
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Sarah H

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Grrrrr.......i can't belive they let him go either.
The ears never even end up looking croped more like butchered.
Here is a friends dog that had a home crop job. She adopted her after she was seized on a drug raid when she was about a year old. I think her ears were actually infected at that point. Poor baby ,she is sweatest old girl ever too.

That poor puppy he will hopefully get a good chance in life now.


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Sarah H

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Jeanne said:
Wow, Sarah, that girl is a Fatty!....LOL

Thats your chocolate dog in the background right?

Haha she was a fatty she was on prednizone at that time. She always sorta looked like a pig though,lol. She was wide to begin with.
And yep thats my boy, this pic was a few years back, he is actually gray on his feet and in muzzle area now. Sigh i hate to think he is getting old. :(
 

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...I don't see why we can't just charge people who do brutal things to animals the same way we would charge parents who do it to their kids. It's not like animals can't feel the pain, they feel it, have just the same possibility of ending up screwed up in the head, etc. 5 years in prison is childs play and it pisses me off that this pathetic excuse for a human being is being let off so easily. 15 minimum. That's what I would have given him, without parole. Sorry, he already has his parole when the judge let him walk the first time. There is little incentive for a lot of people not to abuse animals when your punishment is a little 250 dollar fine and you get the animal taken away (which happens ALL the time, even when the animal ends up dying...)...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
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Nastynotch

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Arconna said:
...I don't see why we can't just charge people who do brutal things to animals the same way we would charge parents who do it to their kids. It's not like animals can't feel the pain, they feel it, have just the same possibility of ending up screwed up in the head, etc. 5 years in prison is childs play and it pisses me off that this pathetic excuse for a human being is being let off so easily. 15 minimum. That's what I would have given him, without parole. Sorry, he already has his parole when the judge let him walk the first time. There is little incentive for a lot of people not to abuse animals when your punishment is a little 250 dollar fine and you get the animal taken away (which happens ALL the time, even when the animal ends up dying...)...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


I completely disagree with animal abuse. but you cant give out the same punishment as murder. Because your then matching the life of a dog with a human. which isnt right. Despite the fact that you can be emotionally in touch with a pet still comes no where close to that of a son, daughter, etc.

you can buy a new dog. you cant buy a new kid.




on subject.
:main_thumbsdown: how can you let the guy go.
 

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Nastynotch said:
I completely disagree with animal abuse. but you cant give out the same punishment as murder. Because your then matching the life of a dog with a human. which isnt right. Despite the fact that you can be emotionally in touch with a pet still comes no where close to that of a son, daughter, etc.

you can buy a new dog. you cant buy a new kid.




on subject.
:main_thumbsdown: how can you let the guy go.

Personally My dogs are my kids! They can never be replaced. Sure I can buy a new dog but I remember,miss,and greave for almost every pet I have ever lost. I do hold my pets life in the same light as a human. They are my family.
 

Arconna

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You can also adopt children though. It's not like there's a shortage of them in the world, actually there's a lot of kids that don't have homes and could use one... I'm just saying that animal abuse is not going to show marked decrease if punishments are so light. I'm not saying that you should be charged for the murder of a dog in the same way if it were a human, but still a stupid fine and 5 years in prison for basically mutilating and probably nearly killing a dog is pathetic. True criminals should be punished.
 
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I don't understand why peopel enjoy hurting animals,dogs,cats,gerbils,hamsters,herps anything they can get their hands on.I would say that 50% of the time they are drunk out of their human minds.
Just my opinion
 
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LadyGecko

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I admit that when it comes to animal abuse-I am a wuss
I could not even read past the first paragraph of the article

Perhaps if the penalties were severe enough for the animal abuse-there would be no graduation to humans
It has been well documented that all serial killers start out abusing animals

just some food for thought
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Reading things like this makes me feel seriously sick. Thinking about the scene of that puppy being amputated like that and the pain it must have felt really turns my stomach.

Nastynotch said:
Despite the fact that you can be emotionally in touch with a pet still comes no where close to that of a son, daughter, etc.

you can buy a new dog. you cant buy a new kid.

That comparison is absurd. I love my dogs more that I love most people, they might be in second or third place in my preferences, lol :main_laugh: But they are different kinds of love, it's like comparing the love you feel for your father and your husband.

Even if you buy a new dog, it will never be the same thing. My two dogs are the same breed (lab cross), both females, siblings, same age, they have lived together their whole lives and have received the same education. But they have completely different personalities. Putting it that way, you always can have another kid or adopt one, so it doesn't matter what happens to them, uh?

Both people and dogs are irreplaceable and can feel pain, and hurting them deserves stricter punishment than that.
 

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Nastynotch said:
I completely disagree with animal abuse. but you cant give out the same punishment as murder. Because your then matching the life of a dog with a human. which isnt right. Despite the fact that you can be emotionally in touch with a pet still comes no where close to that of a son, daughter, etc.

you can buy a new dog. you cant buy a new kid.

It's when people think like this that we can't get stricter punishment for animal abusers. All animals kept as pets, domestic and exotic, whatever they are kept for are helpless. They rely on us humans to be just that "humane" to them, and take care of them to the best of our ability. They are not throw aways, "Oh, I'll just buy another!". This guy plain and simple waited too long to have the dogs ears cropped and didn't want to pay the extra money and time to have them done right. He was probably going to raise them for fighting. I say we cut his ears off with scissors without pain meds, then stick him in jail.
 

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Well and look at it this way Balloon...it's also like saying that Humans are more important than any other life on this planet. Just because it's a dog doesn't mean the situation should be treated any different than if it were a human kid. They are living, breathing animals. You can say "hey I can buy a new one" to a couch, but that's the viewpoint of someone irresponsible to say "I can buy a new dog". It's a copout that can be used when someone doesn't feel up to taking care of an animal properly. Children are helpless without your care in the same way a dog is helpless without proper care. Dogs are like little children that can't talk. I agree we shouldn't kill someone who kills one animal, but he should be punished severely if it is in fact a death caused by animal abuse. If people get away with it they'll keep doing it. Plain and simple.
 

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Arconna said:
Well and look at it this way Balloon...it's also like saying that Humans are more important than any other life on this planet. Just because it's a dog doesn't mean the situation should be treated any different than if it were a human kid. They are living, breathing animals. You can say "hey I can buy a new one" to a couch, but that's the viewpoint of someone irresponsible to say "I can buy a new dog". It's a copout that can be used when someone doesn't feel up to taking care of an animal properly. Children are helpless without your care in the same way a dog is helpless without proper care. Dogs are like little children that can't talk. I agree we shouldn't kill someone who kills one animal, but he should be punished severely if it is in fact a death caused by animal abuse. If people get away with it they'll keep doing it. Plain and simple.


Did I miss something? Isn't that pretty much what I said?
 

Arconna

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Nah you didn't miss anything. I was simply seconding what you said but by saying it differently. I wasn't attacking your anything, just agreeing. Sorry if it seemed otherwise :S
 

Jeanne

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leolover2 said:
lowell is not far from my hometown so if i ever see that guy ill crop his ears

NOt that I am proud of it, but I grew up in Lowell, I now live in Pelham, NH.

Where are you in MA?
 

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i have one simple thing: who is be able to use violence in a poor animal can do the same with a kid...is the same situation: use violence in a halpless animal/kid/woman/person....so...i think this kind of people need to pay a lot for this...they need to understand the value of life...ALL KIND OF LIFE
 

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