Tremper Albino Super Snows

Albey

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On the 29th Jason Haygood posted some incredible pictures of his recent hatchlings including a Diablo Blanco, Het Raptor, Raptor Females, a Black Eyed Eclipse, a Tremper Albino Mack Snow, and a Tremper Albino Super Snow. In that post there were many questions being asked about Tremper Albino Super Snow’s. Here are some quotes from that thread.

trizzypballr said:
Ive noticed that alot of pictures ive seen, the SS trempers have very light patterns for the most part, thats probably why it takes them so long to show/
monkeygirl said:
do the super snow trempers develop brown spotting like the bell super snows do? and do they have red eyes or black eyes?
paulnj said:
The ones with light patterns seem to be males from my web search ability. Obviously males were what was desired last year, so higher temps were used. I have a few clutches of MTA X MTA cooking at 81, so time will tell if temp has an effect on the darkness of the pattern(if I get SSTA).
monkeygirl said:
do the SS trempers keep thier red eyes too?
robin said:
all of the three strains of albino SS get a pattern. if you look closely in the photo you can see it is beginning to develop. as far as normal eyes or red eyes. i would assume it would have red eyes.

oh and jason, i really dig the "het" raptor and tremper mack snow as well :D

Rather than hijack Jason’s thread I thought I would start a new one to show some pictures of my Tremper Albino Super Snows and to answer some of the questions.

The first three Tremper Super Snow’s are ones I kept for myself. The first two pictures are of the Males, and the third one is a Female.

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The first Males markings are a little more yellow in coloration but definitely not what you would call dark. There also seems to be no difference in coloration because of incubation temperatures. The Males were incubated at 88.8 degrees and the Female at 80 – 82 degrees.

The next two pictures are of a couple of Males that I sold to other breeders. Once again the marking coloration is extremely light. It is funny that as dark as some Tremper Albinos end up being the Tremper Super Snows appears to be the lightest in coloration of the three Albino Strains.

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The last picture is a close-up of the eye. I normally use a 60mm Micro lens for photographing my Geckos. It allows me to be just far enough away that I can take the picture and still corral them with my hand. I can never get much detail of the eyes because the flash is too close to really illuminate them. For this picture I used 105mm Micro lens that allowed me to get further away hence the flash did a better job. As you can see the eye color is a dark ruby red. The purple coloration on the actual eyelid is not really there. It is a reflection off of the eye. This is the first time I have actually been able to photograph the vertical pupil of the eye. Really cool huh?

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If anyone has any more questions I will try to answer them as time allows.

I hope you enjoy,
 

robin

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gotta love that macro eye shot!!! i want that lens :yes:

thanks for hookin us up with the info albey :D
 

robin

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albey you think the incubation temps played any role on the body color (in general) or how light or dark the eyes were?
 

Albey

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robin said:
albey you think the incubation temps played any role on the body color (in general) or how light or dark the eyes were?
No Robin, the Female’s eye color is the same as both of the Males.
 

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CarrotTail said:
Very interesting. How look eyes younger geckos?
The baby’s eyes look just like the adults. Here is a picture of one three days after it’s first shed.

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paulnj

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Albey, I have 6 SSTA already and MOST of them show no pattern yet. When would you say I should be able to see a pattern?

For instance I have one hatched 5/26 and it's 13 grams, yet no pattern on the body yet. The head pattern just appeared last shed and the lateral stripe starts to show on mine around 3rd to forth shed.

Here's a bad image of my 13 gram one(My 1D batteries don't hold a charge )
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Albey

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paulnj said:
Albey, I have 6 SSTA already and MOST of them show no pattern yet. When would you say I should be able to see a pattern?

For instance I have one hatched 5/26 and it's 13 grams, yet no pattern on the body yet. The head pattern just appeared last shed and the lateral stripe starts to show on mine around 3rd to forth shed.
Mine started showing some pattern at about 30 grams. That said, take into consideration that the first three pictures on the first page are of 50 plus gram adults don’t count on seeing much.
 

paulnj

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Thanks! I was starting to think maybe they were SSTA mystery geckos, because I was told they should show a pattern by now like SS bells seem to.
 

rhac

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Wow. Those are some nice shots of some really nice animals. That first male has a crazy color!
Great eye-shot man!
 

trizzypballr

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Temperature definitely does play a part in the pattern, as some of you know my SS Tremper actually escaped, I finaly found him alittle over a week later, he is only around 10 grams and has a pattern almost as dark as the bell SS's show. He was almost pure white before he escaped
 
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okapi

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Albey, your posts are always so insightful. You should post more often.

I plan on producing some tremper SSBB in two years (next season is BB X SS). When I breed the Mack snows DH BB togeather and get SS albinos, and SS Blazings I will have to wait until they are about 30 grams to tell them apart? Or is there any obvious difference between the blizzard and nonblizzard super snow albinos when they hatch? Ive heard that nonalbino super snows and nonalbino super snow blizzards are a different shade of grey when they hatch or something like that, but they are still very hard to tell apart.
 

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