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I'm not sure what these are. They are from Aptor het Raptor x het Raptor.

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this one has some type of air bubble behind her legs. Any idea what that is? The gecko is over a month old and it has been there since hatching. She has the same thing on one side of her bottom jaw too where the skin looks to have air in it.
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first to i might say jungle for the dark one but i not really any good

the one with the lumb i dont know maybe its just some fluid i would wait and see
 

godzillizard

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Jungle albino 66% het Raptor and jungle 66% het Raptor. On the bubble baby--this usually occurs when a gecko has insufficient kidney function, and they can't expel water through normal excretion. I have an LV blazing that looks identical, and I give him lasix (human diuretic) daily, and he does just fine. When you give Lasix, the bubbles are tiny in comparison to the occaisonal day that I can't give him his dose. A little flabby, but he seems to be just fine--you should see how vicious of a feeder he is :D

*also, it's possible that your little guy might eventually "heal"--his kidneys might eventually fully develop, or 'fix' themselves
 

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godzillizard said:
On the bubble baby--this usually occurs when a gecko has insufficient kidney function, and they can't expel water through normal excretion.

Actually it usually occurs when there is an over abundance of calcium in the diet...
When kidneys no longer function properly the animal will eventually DIE from the kidney disorder!!! Kidneys do not "fix" themselves...
 

godzillizard

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Actually it usually occurs when there is an over abundance of calcium in the diet...
When kidneys no longer function properly the animal will eventually DIE from the kidney disorder!!! Kidneys do not "fix" themselves...
thats not what the vet told me. He said there was a small chance that the kidneys might repair themselves in time.
 

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godzillizard said:
thats not what the vet told me. He said there was a small chance that the kidneys might repair themselves in time.

Well I can tell you for sure that your vet is wrong and there are hundreds of leos out there with the very same sacks under the arms that do not take Lasix and do not die from any type of kidney problems... Infact I have a few leos, some over 6 years old who have had the sacks on and off since hatching... When the calcium is reduced in their diet the sacks get smaller and smaller until they are gone.

They are kind of like the sacks in the roof crested geckos mouths...

Lets face it, most vets have no clue about individual species care. They are only slightly educated in "general reptile care". There are very few vets that specialize in exotics and even fewer who specialize in herps...
Go find a new vet... Your leo does not have a kidney disorder, it is taking in more calcium than its body can absorb...
 
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godzillizard

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You haven't even seen this animal!?! and your diagnosing it? every time it gets its lasix, the sacs "deflate", if I miss a dose, they engorge/baloon out. It's only source of calcium is twice a month he gets 6 phoenix worms--I completely understand what you're saying, but this case is nothing like what your assuming it to be. Here's some pics so you can see i'm not just talking about the average calcium sacs here. Also, I didn't produce this animal, but it hatched looking just like it does in the pics...
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I forgot to add, those pics are what he looks like when he hasn't had Lasix for 2 days, I'll take some pics of him tommorrow so you can see how he looks when he has been getting his dose.

Lets face it, most vets have no clue about individual species care. They are only slightly educated in "general reptile care". There are very few vets that specialize in exotics and even fewer who specialize in herps...
Gregg, on this one, I couldn't possibly agree with you more. It makes me very sad when I think of all the herps that have gone home from the vet misdiagnosed, with medications/treatments for issues they don't have...
 

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