what will i get?

Jaysonn!

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okay well first post big question, i have a bell albino male and a giant temper albino female, i dont kn ow any hets, what will i get if breed them?sorry if this is the wrong place or dumb question.

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LZRDGRL

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You cannot breed them. Bells and Trempers are two different Albino strains. IF you bred them, you'd get all Normals het Tremper het Bell, and nobody would want those, since it's "muddling the gene pool." This is very much frowned upon.

Just get a third gecko (either a Tremper or Bell), to pair with one of them. Just make sure you pair Bell with Bell, Tremper with Tremper, and --if you choose to -- Rainwater with Rainwater!

Oops, now I was the first one ;-)

Chrissy
 

Jaysonn!

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okay i see, are there any suggestions on what I should breed my female to for some awsome morphs? I'm thinking of picking up another male leo when the expo comes to breed him with my female, what should I get?
 

TranceZ

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okay i see, are there any suggestions on what I should breed my female to for some awsome morphs? I'm thinking of picking up another male leo when the expo comes to breed him with my female, what should I get?
I'm currently working with trempers. Why not just get another tremper per what crissy was saying. Yeah not good to mix both those albino strands. Goodluck!
 

Jaysonn!

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I'm currently working with trempers. Why not just get another tremper per what crissy was saying. Yeah not good to mix both those albino strands. Goodluck!

okay will do thanks for the help im just trying im new to all these genetics and and breeding,
 

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Well Im going to sound rude saying this but no other way to put it..

With those 2 geckos no matter what you breed them with you wont get awesome morphs..

They are just average albinos.. that you will make average babies with.
NOT THAT IT IS A BAD THING!

but if you want awesome you have to pay for awesome...

but they are nice to learn about breeding with.
 

Jaysonn!

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not a problem i don't find it rude at all. im asking so i can learn :) do you think i can get a decent breeding pair with around $250-$300 bucks? that will produce some decent money makers? i absoultly love reptiles and hope to pursue a career one day. i wanna start breeding and of course make money while at it. like ball pythons i know like a pinestripe to and spider makes a spinner.. which is twice as much as a spider or pinestripe, any leos that are like that?
 

Jaysonn!

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money makers no.. you breed geckos beacuse its fun. not to make money....

why does it say, in the breeding section

"Do not breed just for fun.
Do not breed just for the heck of it.
Do NOT cross albino strains. There are 3 albino strains and you should NOT cross them with each other, they are not compatible and will not yield a "cool" new morph and will only muddy the gene pool even more.
Do not breed geckos that are too young or mix a female and a male together with no intent of breeding."

for the first rule do not breed for fun..?
 

sunshinegeckos

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You wont make money for the first couple years if ever. If your breeding them for money your in the wrong business. If it is something you really want to do then you need to spend your time learning everything you can and then decide whether or not it is for you. You can spend $250-$300 on a mate but you wont be able to sell the babies for anywhere near that amount until you get your reputation. Good luck!
 

Jaysonn!

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well i disagree with that.
You should breed because you like to do it. not to make money.
any breeder starting out will be LUCKY to break even the first few years until you get a good reputation.

i never said i JUST wanted to make money for me its all about learning, the fun of creating, and have it add to hopfully become a career and knowledge, and stated would be NICE if could make money as well.
 

Jaysonn!

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oh well i didnt mean for that to be stressed, i was just simply looking for fun projects, that could turn out money, i see the odds and understand it will take time, just looking for some cool project sugestions. thanks for all the help. like i said new to breeding just got alot of questions.
 

TranceZ

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Imo I agree with magical geckos then again I agree with the rules to certain extant. Breeding geckos is a lot of fun and exciting, but it can't be costly and more of a responsibility. Every baby that hatches needs its own housing (eventually) and food. And trust me you don't sell babies right away even when up to mature weight.
 

Wild West Reptile

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Let me try and explain this for you....

There's the "breeder" who asks questions like "what kind of morph is this and what will I get when I breed it to that?" then they breed for "fun" and end up with 25 babys that they have no racks for and end up costing them way more to feed and house than they planned for and then give them away to people who have no idea how to take care of them, etc.,... That was for "fun".

Then there's the other "breeder" who actually learned everything there is to know about leopard geckos and breeding and decides to do it. They spend most of their paychecks on geckos and supplies and end up with a ton of beautiful geckos that are still hard to get rid of because everyone and their mother is breeding geckos. Their friends and family think they are totally out of their mind because all they talk about is geckos and they no longer can go on vacations and their friends are afraid to come over in fear of getting another genetics lesson and they spend the rest of that paycheck on fresh fruits and veggies to feed the bugs they feed to their geckos and they spend the little free rime they do have on geckoforums and other breeders sites and so forth and so on.....so breeding becomes their "fun".

That's the difference I think Dennis was explaining to you about breeding for fun.
 

Jaysonn!

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all that i understand already and already working of supplies for a rack. i have lots of time i do online school and i am a shift leader at a local subway and have little to none on bills, i enjoy spending my money on my herps, i just built a custom enclouser for my beardie, (ill post pics in bearded section) so i do understand the space and feeding cost. and time
 

Jaysonn!

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Let me try and explain this for you....

There's the "breeder" who asks questions like "what kind of morph is this and what will I get when I breed it to that?" then they breed for "fun" and end up with 25 babys that they have no racks for and end up costing them way more to feed and house than they planned for and then give them away to people who have no idea how to take care of them, etc.,... That was for "fun".

Then there's the other "breeder" who actually learned everything there is to know about leopard geckos and breeding and decides to do it. They spend most of their paychecks on geckos and supplies and end up with a ton of beautiful geckos that are still hard to get rid of because everyone and their mother is breeding geckos. Their friends and family think they are totally out of their mind because all they talk about is geckos and they no longer can go on vacations and their friends are afraid to come over in fear of getting another genetics lesson and they spend the rest of that paycheck on fresh fruits and veggies to feed the bugs they feed to their geckos and they spend the little free rime they do have on geckoforums and other breeders sites and so forth and so on.....so breeding becomes their "fun".

That's the difference I think Dennis was explaining to you about breeding for fun.

i am completly obessed with reptiles i am very close with my local shop, i love learning and studying about herps, i think maybe you guys might be judging a lil on me being a new member to this fourm and being 17. i can asure you all i talk about and spend hours on my computer reseaching and exploring, (my grades reflect that) i have a love for reptiles. so please dont judge me on number of post and my age. i MENTIONED money thats not a main goal i said would be nice, asked if there are leos like that, trying to learn about them i would think you could aprecaite that i am asking and reseaching instead of just doing it and "going with it"
 

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