1st BSB Project Baby!

[eyelids]

actually yours look like "normal" high colored, high contrast bell albinos. i have produced these as well.
do you think you are going to produce enigmas from these BSB's?

What's an Enigma?

I know the thought is absolutely crazy... I don't want to start the whole debate again... Just give me some time...

 

[robin]

so is that why you get jealous when other people (like dan) post photos of theirs?
because they have one, you don't and you think you can make them from your BSB's

 

[LeosForLess]

so is that why you get jealous when other people (like dan) post photos of theirs?
because they have one, you don't and you think you can make them from your BSB's

I dont think he's being outrageous at all Robin, really, no mod is going to tell you that you should just stop bashing him, and im 16 and i realize that your bashing him. People can dream or beleive whatever they want, reguardless of what they have or dont have. Cmon just give the guy a break...

 

[eyelids]

Ummm... Where did that come from???

I'm not jealous at all... Why are you making such a fuss over this??? It's not like I'm out posting BSBs for sale everywhere and claiming they'll make Enigmas...

The spotting on them is very similar to Enigmas and IMO they don't look like other Bells out there. The original mother came from Mark so I figure there's a slight chance I could make them. It's just a hunch Robin...

I'm just a hobbyist and don't do this for any other reason than it gives me joy. I only post geckos for sale when I need money for supplies or want to get some new geckos.

If you're looking for a fight you're starting it with the wrong guy. I'm a good, kind hearted person and will turn the other cheek long before I put up my fists. I have a lot of respect for you and it hurts me to think that maybe you see me as just another lump in your gravy. :disappointed:

 

[o0 Ryan 0o]

I want to let you know that I'm not trying to be a jerk. Since I work from home I constantly look at the forums and gecko sites. It's been a good 3-4 years now. I can look at any gecko and confidently know what it is, kind of cool and lame at the same time haha. I see a lot about this project, and have yet to see anything black IMO. I thought hey, let me see what I can find in Photoshop for you.

I also thought while I did this, I'd like to look try this with a red eyed enigma. I know there's a lot of talk about the ocular albinism, and an albino enigma can still have black pigment. I took a photo of Kelli's, one of her first killer red eyes and checked the darkest spot. It's dark grey - black, with just a hint of red. I always wondered if the albino enigmas really had black spots or actually really dark brown spots that looked black. Well, it's actually black and that's pretty darn cool.

 

[eyelids]

No problemo man!

My BSBs are like people of African decent. They're called "black", but in all actuality they are not... LOL!

NO I'M NOT RACIST! Just adding to the madness!

 

[PrototypeGeckos]

I personally as of yet dont see any black either, but thats my opinion, and maybe Michael has something and maybe he don't, but you never know until you try. I think Michael has taken the criticism very well considering he hasn't tried to pass off anything as something its not. I say lets let him work on his project and let him prove himself wrong (if that is how it turns out) instead of telling him he has nothing by looking at couple of hatchlings.

 

[eyelids]

I appreciate it man!

If I get lucky and prove these out I definitely won't be boasting about it... In all honesty I hope it'd help shed light on some things and that the community will benefit as a whole.

If I fail... I'll continue being my humble self and take it like a man... Straight up the caboose!

 

[PrototypeGeckos]

If I fail... I'll continue being my humble self and take it like a man... Straight up the caboose!

:main_no:

 

[eyelids]

Yeah probably not up the caboose, but I'm ready for any repercussions when/if I fail...

 

[robin]

Ummm... Where did that come from???

I'm not jealous at all... Why are you making such a fuss over this??? It's not like I'm out posting BSBs for sale everywhere and claiming they'll make Enigmas...

no you don't but you do try and sell them as a "BSB", like it is some genetic morph and want $400 for it. now i have no problems with people charging what they want but claiming it is something it is not or not even remotely close to it is another thing. you have no proof other than its a project and you have a hunch. but until it is proven it is still only a high colored high contrast normal bell from your unproven BSB project.

where did it come from? it is apparent just from reading some of your posts in several different sections.

i understand how maybe you could be excited i guess and if you produce something cool but do not knock other peoples stuff and do not insinuate the BSB is a proven trait.

 

[Val]

Alright guys. I think it's gone far enough. You'll have to agree to disagree and call it a day.

Beautiful hatchling, Michael.

 

[eyelids]

Thanks Val!

 

[ReptilianGems]

That's a beauty!!

 

[eyelids]

Thanks Jim!

 

[Baysidegeckos]

Cool bell, great yellow for a hatchling! Keep Updated pics for Us. Cant wait to see what it looks like when it grows.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

Im not starting a flame war but i dont think hes really talking smack about her vision. Even if he is, that icon IS called ROBIN. So how should he know where the line is when people joke around enough to make the eyeglass icon robin? Im sure he didnt mean any harm when he said it, and i dont think robin was all that offended, she just speaks her mind.

If you knew anything about Robin you would know that she has had poor vision and has had very painful surgery and recovery to help correct her eye sight.

IMHO you do not get personal and try to discredit someone with things like that in a "gecko dispute" esp when Robin has seen and dealt with many more geckos than me, 420 and a lot of others here.

If you want to agrue geckos..... GO FOR IT

If you want to get personal and go after someones physical faults to TRY to make your point, there is a different place I'd say to go to.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

I dont think he's being outrageous at all Robin, really, no mod is going to tell you that you should just stop bashing him, and im 16 and i realize that your bashing him. People can dream or beleive whatever they want, reguardless of what they have or dont have. Cmon just give the guy a break...

I don't see anyone bashing anyone so why would a MOD say that, its just people discussing the BSB project and helping him see that there is no black on the leo posted.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

OH and KUDOS to you Ryan for taking the time to post those pics with color comparisons, I wish I could do things like that!

 

[Gregg M]

Awesome Mike... Glad to see you are happy about the way your project is unfolding... I hope to see some cool stuff out of you this season...