A TANGELO.....REDO!

[eric]

Lets try this again. LOL! I am very interested on what makes a Tangelo a Tangelo. According to the breeder of the albino strain that lives in texas ( can I say that? ) a Super tangelo is and I Quote:The "Supers" have the tangerine taking over the lighter body bands as it grows." And from my visual inspection the ones called Tangelos not "supers" have more white body markings. So the "super" doesn't imply the Giant genetics but the saturation of Orange coloring. With all this said what is a Tangelo exactly? I've made geckos that look very similar to the "TANGELO" but from R.A.P.T.OR genes and SUNGLOWS. (See Photos below) Is it just me or don't they look like TANGELOs? Anybody care to help with what they know from experience with these awesome geckos.

Thanks, Eric

 

[Okee Reps]

I have no clue but I would love to see the jungle version of that Eric, he's awesome.

 

[LeapinLizards]

I know I'm not helping any, but I have to say how gorgeous that gecko is! It literally looks like someone took an eraser to him!

 

[eric]

James, Me too! And Heather, Its actually three different geckos. Same parents, Sunglow mother X A.p.t.or father.

 

[shadowx362]

very beautiful geckos!! A plus would be if you could get rid off the Aptor/raptor gene. I would definitely be getting one of those

 

[bro paul]

Here's a gecko from our Tangerine Trempers...
Just good old line-bred stuff.
Probably doesn't help the thread much...?

 

[eric]

Paul, I now know why your called Bright Albino!!! Someone call 911....screw it go get Dan the fireman my threads on fire!!!!!

 

[shadowx362]

once again very beautiful distinct looking tremper.
I think this is a better "Tangelo" than others I've seen LOL

 

[yellermelon]

i think all the Texas stuff since the release and findings of the aptor raptor genetics have a specific look. I dont understand naming them 100 different things other than smart marketing but they DO have a different look...As Eric just said his aptors are simular to the "tangelos" in question..Ive often thought this myself. I have always considered the "tangelos" as Rons line of sunglows with the Aptor/Raptor line orange in them. But hey Rons been breeding how many geckos how long? His Line bred tangs should have a specific look to them by now. And I really really personally love the jungle giants with the dark orange highlights that comes from Texas... Hope this helps with discusion on this matter and not on flaming it lol....

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

After looking at the man from texas's website i'm noticing that there is a strange simularity (sp) between the sunglows and the tangelos. I have noticed that the breeder mentioned above also has geckos labeled as Sunglows, Tangelos, and Tang Albinos. Every is located under the Albino section.

Where i'm getting confused on is that it appears that while making Sunglows he came up with a certain pattern that appeared which gave it the lighter markings on it. Then when bred back to each other the orange coloration appeared to have gotten better.

Am i way off in left field in what i'm understanding?

 

[eric]

Thank you Chris. I agree 100%, the jungle giants with the dark orange highlights that comes from Texas are amazing! I'm sure someone has already done this, crossed a Tangelo to the eclipse gene to see what the got? Just curious. If anyone's done this please share your results.

Thanks Ryan. The only thing that gets me is he states that "TANGELOS are a color mutation and not a line bred trait." I hope I'm right in this statement: Breeding Tangelo X Tangelo doesn't necessarily give you 100% Tangelo because of it being a color mutation and not a line breed trait. Right?

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

See i find that to be very interesting Eric. He states that he can about this by pretty much creating Sunglows. It is a strain of Tablino. I has heavy orange coloration. If you look on his page and you compair a Sunglow and a Tangelo they both appear the same. I find it hard to believe that there is a mutation in the DNA to make something orange.

But i'm not working with this morph so other then pure speculation i can not offer facts. The only people/person that can do that would be the people breeding them. I would like to see the findings from other people. I would like to see a Normal het for nothing bred to a tangelo to see what the outcome is. That in my limited knowledge of genetics would give a better answer to see if it is a LBT or something genetic.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Well, what is this then?

 

[Nigel4less]

Well, what is this then?

Thats Luther

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

That is what i'm talking about Marcia. That appears to be if we are going by physical appearance as a Tangelo. But i'm sure that it's just a really nice Sunglow. lol

 

[LeapinLizards]

Oh sorry Eric, I knew it was 3 different, I should have said THOSE geckos instead of THAT gecko. Sorry I got too excited

 

[shadowx362]

That sunglow is nice and assuming its het nothing.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

That sunglow is nice and assuming its het nothing.

Actually, it is a simple Hybino, het for nothing. We didn't call them Sunglows back then.

 

[Nigel4less]

Actually, it is a simple Hybino, het for nothing. We didn't call them Sunglows back then.

Hybino.... No way... Thats a Luther

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

Well it's a beautiful gecko. I would love to have someone chime in that is working with Tangelo line and give us info regarding their findings when bred to a normal het for nothing. If such a breeding has occured.