Am I just regular?

[TLJx2 REPTILES]

good girl

 

[Russellm0704]

Lillith & Leopardshade, thank you. (LOL I am aware how long they live and I'm okay with that) Had someone simply laid out things like that for me, I would have been more open to listen. My research, which yes I did some before I bought my first one, stated that they could simply be housed together, like 1 gecko per 10 gallon tank, thus 2 geckos=20 gallon tank -- as long as not two males. And that is how I've seen with everyone who owns reptiles(that aren't breeding them of course) in the local area. I have seen the idea of "racks" which is okay, but it doesn't display the gecko in a manner I want when people come into my house, y'know?

These are PETS. I have done some research on breeding, not extensive. As I've tried to say, it was a purely curiosity thing, if someone had simply said to me, that there's no way to tell what the outcome would be with a non-breeding-quality gecko with another and said that nicely, i would have been okay with it. Like I said curiosity, I kinda just wanted pictures and to maybe dream of a possibility that could have come.

I admit, 4 is probably much for me, BUT I can guarentee that they will be taken care of to the best of my ability. I have a soft spot for animals, why else would I have so many(4 cats of my own that I can say I pay for everything on, then there's 12 other cats on my parents property in which i live that I help care for, 1 cow, 2 horses, 2 dogs, 4 geckos, 1 bearded dragon)? Lord why else would I have taken the huge responsibility of taking in a bearded dragon with moderate MBD who is doing much better in my care btw, she does get vet treatment and observation and is improving little by little.

I am here trying to learn so please don't jump my case if I ask a question. It wasn't a question that I ever planned on getting out of hand as it has, but nonetheless. I'm not as stupid as you may think. Trust me, if I was ever serious about breeding, I would do a hell of a lot more research than I have. I, more than you think from my posts, do have a respect for animals and their lives and health and since all but 2 of my cats and my 2 horses have been rescues, I actually do hate people who do not care properly for their animals by getting them fixed and whatnot.

Congrats on your new geckos. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like you are taking in the correct information. The idea that as long as both geckos are not males then they can live together is completely wrong. The male will overbeed the female and stress her out which can seriously damage her. Breeding also brings on the possibilities of egg binding, weight loss, etc. Honestly the best way to house geckos is indiviudally but the only way to house them together is if they are 2 females of the same size that have been quarentined for 90 days. If all 3 of those requirements are met then there is still a chance they won't get along, dominate each other for food, etc. It's constructive criticism and to be honest it's not about you getting your feelings hurt. It's about the well-being of your geckos.

 

[Ambyrlynne]

Yes, I know that now but I also don't know the sex of these two new ones, please keep that in mind, they're too young. They are seperated now. Even breeders I talked to said that keeping two females together is fine, so sorry if I'm not making you all happy by taking your advice, but the two female I have in a 20 gallon are happy and healthy and they'll stay in the 20. The two new babies are separated though in a 10 gallon each until they're "quarentined" and properly sexed.

 

[Dimidiata]

Yes, I know that now but I also don't know the sex of these two new ones, please keep that in mind, they're too young. They are seperated now. Even breeders I talked to said that keeping two females together is fine, so sorry if I'm not making you all happy by taking your advice, but the two female I have in a 20 gallon are happy and healthy and they'll stay in the 20. The two new babies are separated though in a 10 gallon each until they're "quarentined" and properly sexed.

You know, you really need to learn better people skills or get lost. NOBODY likes the way your talking to people. Russel just explained to you in the nicest way possible what might happen thats it, and thats how you respond to him, REALLY. Im done. I dont need to take crap from someone like you.

 

[Ambyrlynne]

That time I wasn't trying to be mean, I was just saying that people keep telling me to separate, separate, separate. I did do it with the younger ones, but at this moment I'm not willing nor can I do it with the older two.

There's no way I can word anything on a forum that you are going to take in a nice way. I don't have a large vocabulary, sorry. English is still a second language to me.

My apologies to Russel, I did not mean to offend, I was simply saying that I have been told now what could happen and although I do actually appreciate everyone's true concern, I'm doing the best I can to take your advice but I don't agree with all of it. I thought it was my right not to agree.

 

[Russellm0704]

It's a lost cause worrying about it for me anymore. I've stated my opinion but in the end you are gonna do what you want to do.

 

[Dimidiata]

It is your right, just remember you came here for advice, and the people giving it, they have done a LOT more then just research, they know what their talking about. But russells right, in the end people do what they feel is right.

 

[Ambyrlynne]

I admit, I'm not too knowledgeable, but I did do some reasearch even if it wasn't what you guys on here say works as the same way. I talked to a few breeders and I did some online as well as book research and I'm still learning and I'm willing to learn, believe that or not.
And yes, people are going to do what they want and are able to does.

 

[Dimidiata]

lol youve talked to a few breeders is for sure, chris(wildwest) Janece(lil) and carlos(Tiedupinknots) are also breeders, many memeber here are(some of the best out there included). This forum is always a...learning curve, always.

 

[Ambyrlynne]

LOL Most (not local...uh..whats the word...active?)people on here are breeders or so it seems. I meant breeders in my area..but yes learning is a lifelong process no matter the subject

 

[acpart]

Sometimes it's hard to figure out what to do even when someone gets advice because there's more than one way to do things. If the 2 older females are doing fine together, then they can probably stay together. I'm a breeder who houses the geckos in small breeding groups and rarely has a problem. Of course, I keep an eye on everyone to make sure it's still OK. The babies are now separated and quarantined. Hopefully you won't end up with 2 males! If you get a male and a female, you could keep the male in the 10 gallon, put a second level in the 20 long and the three females (once the baby grows up) should be fine as long as they get along.

Aliza

 

[Ambyrlynne]

How do I put a second level in the 20 gallon?

I don't know when exactly I'll be able to tell the sexes of the two, but the possible SHT is barely as big as my finger and the patternless is a bit bigger but still tiny.

 

[acpart]

Do a forum search for "second level" or "upstairs". There are a lot of pictures including mine (I'd post it again but I can't find it right now).

Aliza

 

[Ambyrlynne]

k thanks