Are all APTORs 100% het RAPTOR？
- Thread starter Vanckey
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Ian S. said:Well now that I recall.... Mine didn't work and I want a refund.....LAWL
This male is/was a Giant patternless stripe (course he's darker now and has pattern) He is an HQ red stripe x Tremper Giant reverse stripe, but I never got any eclipse eyes when I crossed him with two tremper patternless stripe females of the same lineage and a striped tremper. WTH!!!:main_thumbsdown: at least he proved out albino. just bad luck?
not all HQ red stripe x Tremper Giant reverse stripe are "patternless stripes"
i know that sounds bad but they aren't. that cross is how the "eye trait" came about but it dosent come out of every gecko from that cross that you make like that. http://www.amgecko.com/breeders_patstripe.html as you can see from the Patternless stripe page. some look like red stripes and some look like they have no pattern. like the male Patternless stripe
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your "patternless stripe" is a red stripe not a true patternless stripe. that is why you didnt get anything with the eye trait. but once you breed anything with the eye trait to the "patternless stripe project" it makes them hets for the eye trait (and they already have the "patterenless stripe pattern") so in turn they are het eclipse/RAPTOR because they tecnicaly the "patternless stripe" look should stay the same and they are het for the eye trait.
this is why you didnt see banded Raptors till after people started outcrossing them to banded animals. and sense the banded is dominate over the "patternless stripe" you get alot more banded Raptors then patternless ones.
like i have been saying its not as simple as recessive.
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See i knew this was coming. I dug all afternoon for old pics of my man before breeding. I even went over to throw up green and tried to find one. (which is the only time I go to that wretched place) The male that I posted was exactly identical to the one pictured above and so were the females. Just as bright, just as pretty and just as patternless. So why wouldn't it be a patternless stripe? That gecko has been posted for quite some time now on your site and is well into adulthood I'm sure. I'll bet a $ 20 spot that gecko posted isn't as patternless as an adult after breeding?
Actualy Alberto sold it years ago and it realy didnt have any spots on him after breeding eather. usualy with males we sell them after useing them one year because we have a male that takes its place (better geneticaly)
maybe it was just bad odds that you didnt get the eye trait to "pop" out.
maybe it was just bad odds that you didnt get the eye trait to "pop" out.
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