Bell hybino het eclipse

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Purpleskyes

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I have discovered my tremper albino het for raptor isnt actually.

Turns out he is a bell hybino het for eclipse, patternless and ruby eyed.

I has been suggested I could possibly breed radars from him. But I got extremely luckly finding him I doubt I would find another bell het for ecplise.

Could I bred him to my bell albino then incubate all hatchlings for females and when they are old enough bred back to dad would this work?
 
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Mel&Keith said:
How did you find out that he's a Bell jet Raptor?

posted picture of him and both parents everyone who seen picture agreed 100% he is a bell hypino and seeing as his father is a raptor he has to be het for raptor which inculdes the ecplise gene. Pictures of both him and parents are in my gecko in the show off ur leos section.
 

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I wouldn’t personally by a R.A.D.A.R., with the Tremper gene in the mix. The R.A.D.A.R. project with this male is not suggested by me.
 

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Wellif his father is a RAPTOR and he is indeed a bell for some odd reason, He would technically be a double het tremper, and bell. Post pictures here please I am 99% sure If his dad is a RAPTOR he would be tremper line..
Mel...I really want a JET RAPTOR of my own do you have any lol....do those have single or twin engines?

EDIT: I checked your other post, he does really look to be bell. So he must be a double het If his dad is a RAPTOR...
 
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yellermelon said:
Wellif his father is a RAPTOR and he is indeed a bell for some odd reason, He would technically be a double het tremper, and bell. Post pictures here please I am 99% sure If his dad is a RAPTOR he would be tremper line..
Mel...I really want a JET RAPTOR of my own do you have any lol....do those have single or twin engines?

EDIT: I checked your other post, he does really look to be bell. So he must be a double het If his dad is a RAPTOR...

I thought you could only get double het tremper/bell in normal leopard geckos as both albino strains cancel each other out?? Thus creating the normal with double hets

What do you suggest I do breeding wise with a double het tremper/bell as well as being het for raptor?
 
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Yeah, he does look bell.

Purpleskyes said:
I thought you could only get double het tremper/bell in normal leopard geckos as both albino strains cancel each other out?? Thus creating the normal with double hets

Nope, there are many ways to get double hets, in this case on accident.

Purpleskyes said:
What do you suggest I do breeding wise with a double het tremper/bell as well as being het for raptor?

I guess you have to make the world’s first R.A.B.O.R. – Ruby eye Albino Bell ORange
 
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Is that even possible ?? I havnt even had my first breeding season yet I would have no idea how to go about that in anyway. This is why I posted in here for advice as to what to do?
 

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I said double het I meant het for one showing the other sorry. I personally think its a bell hybino that got mislabelled. But do as PaulNJ said in the other thread.
 
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yellermelon said:
I said double het I meant het for one showing the other sorry. I personally think its a bell hybino that got mislabelled. But do as PaulNJ said in the other thread.

As I said in the other thread the breeders I got him from dont even bred hybinos or sunglows so I have no idea how he would end up being mislabelled ? He also came with a birth ceritfate
 

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for that gecko to be a Bell, the Raptor parent would've had to have been het for Bell...sounds like someone is lying to you...Could you post a good pic of the eyes?
 
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godzillizard said:
for that gecko to be a Bell, the Raptor parent would've had to have been het for Bell...sounds like someone is lying to you...Could you post a good pic of the eyes?

I thought that was a very good pictures of his eyes. I dont really like taking pictures of him as he is senstive to the light and has worked out that camera = flash and freaks out. What more do you need from a picture of the eyes? and I will see what I can do
 
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This is the only close up of this eyes I have at the moment

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You can see its very red and the pupil is also red. Does this help or do you need a better picture?
 
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Sorry, I forgot you had that pic on the other post. I'd breed him to a tang Bell (Bell sunglow), cause that's what he is :) What exactly does the birth certificate say on it?
 

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I assure you that bell couldn't have come from a raptor crossed to anything .... if indeed that was the lineage and it is a bell. I don't want to sound mean, but only a moron would have a raptor het bell and a female tremper het bell to breed together and not know what they made.

test breed it to either a tremper or a bell and wait to see if you get a non albino from that cross before breeding it to another. If indeed it's a bell het tremper(highly unlikely) you could hatch either albino strain, but a non albino with prove it to be non homozygous for the strain of the mother.
 

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First of all, I would like to apologize for my spelling error. I was typing from my iPhone in the car and it was bumpy (no, I was not driving). A Jet Raptor would be super cool though! :p

Mel, he does have a lot of Bell characteristics but we have Tremper Sunglows who have very dark burgundy spots much like a Bell. I would breed it to a RAPTOR to prove it out. If you get all Albinos then you'll know it's a Tremper. If you get some Albinos and some non-Albinos then you'll know it's a Bell het Tremper. The parents of that gecko look 100% Tremper to me and I think that it's possible that they could produce Hybinos. Do you know what temperature the baby was incubated at?
 

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Hi again Mel,
The perfect way to go about this would be to first breed the hybino to a pair of tremper albinos. If it's not a het all the babies will be normal. If your extremely concerned about the eclipse portion of the animal then a breed him to a raptor.
 

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Test breed to a tremper or raptor like everyone's saying.
Also, and it's just my opinion, but how red the eyes are doesn't mean what strain of albino it is, nor how dark the spots are. A colder incubated albino will have darker spots. And my bells (that are 100% bell) have eyes that range from red as red can be to almost silver.
 
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Purpleskyes

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Thanks for the advice guys same advice on the uk forum, currently dont have a tremper female but luckily we are going to a show this weekend and I am sure I will be able to pick one up there:)

As for Birth Certifate

Sire = Raptor

Dam = Tremper jungle albino het aptor
 

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