Bell hybino het eclipse

[Purpleskyes]

Oh and temp wise I think it was around 84f to get a mix of sexes

 

[godzillizard]

Also, and it's just my opinion, but how red the eyes are doesn't mean what strain of albino it is, nor how dark the spots are. A colder incubated albino will have darker spots. And my bells (that are 100% bell) have eyes that range from red as red can be to almost silver.

True, but, if a gecko (incubated at 84) has really light eyes with bright red pupils and dark brownish spots, I'd bet that it's a Bell. It's not just the eye color, or the spots, it's how dark/light the eyes are in relation to how dark/light the spotting is. If this gecko was a Tremper incubated at 84, its eyes would be darker, and it's spots would be lighter. IMOE

 

[Purpleskyes]

Well we went to a show yesterday and spoke to the breeder told them what people have said regarding how much he does look like a bell. They said he is 100& tremper and no egg mixup as these were the first eggs laid of the season. From the same parents they got albino jungles, reverse stripes, raptors, aptors etc.

 

[Mel&Keith]

I would be inclined to believe them. Some Trempers are genetically darker that others and 84 isn't a very high temp so it's easy to get dark Trempers at that temp.

 

[Ian S.]

From the same parents they got albino jungles, reverse stripes, raptors, aptors etc.

This is exactly what you would expect to get from the parents you posted. The bell hybino doesn't fit the bill.

 

[Purpleskyes]

I was going to test bred because alot of people want to know for certain what he is. But now I have my enigma het bell thats what I am gonna breed to my female bell. I suppose I could always get another bell albino lol

 

[Ian S.]

Hope you don't mind. Not trying to hijack your threads. Here's a few pics just to help you further see what others are seeing.
Here's a male hybino showing the trade mark, dark maroon tail color. Unfortunately he has only 1 spot that's really out of place and rather faded. haaw the nerve.

Here is one of a bell male that I sold a few months back. He has alot of burgandy/maroon.

and the hard to find normal tremper tail. A fairly light colored one to boot. (R.I.P. Zeus) 10 years old.

can't leave out the eyes either. Where trempers turn dark with age bells reign supreme.:whip:
these two are two and three years of age.

 

[Purpleskyes]

They are lovely geckos Ian. I do see how you would think he is bell its just hard trying to get my head round how the hell he came from those parents. As there is 100% no chance of mix up he was one of the first eggs out. There group of bell sunglows werent bred until way later in the season.

 

[paulnj]

I would take the word of the breeder as true if they aren't fly by nights.

 

[Ian S.]

As I said in the other thread the breeders I got him from dont even bred hybinos or sunglows so I have no idea how he would end up being mislabelled ? He also came with a birth ceritfate

There group of bell sunglows werent bred until way later in the season.

I see an inconsistancy here and I'm not saying it is you LOL. :main_laugh:

 

[Gazz]

I would be inclined to believe them. Some Trempers are genetically darker that others and 84 isn't a very high temp so it's easy to get dark Trempers at that temp.

Talbino's at that temp are common but a dark spotted Talbino's don't have eyes that glowing that's a Balbino trait.Dark spots = dark eyes with Talbino's.IMO there Two options of what this leo is 1/-It's a Balbino and there was a egg mix up.2/-Both parents was Visual Talbino so both must have been HET Balbino.So that leo is a Balbino-Talbino(HOMO Balbino & HOMO Talbino).So IMO a test breeding is a must to both Balbino & Talbino.To fing out wheather it's a Balbino or a Balbino-Talbino.

If Balbino.
Balbino X Balbino = 100%Balbino.
Balbino X Talbino = 100%Normal HET Balbino & Talbino.

If Balbino-Talbino(Double HOMO albino)
Balbino-Talbino X Balbino = 100%Balbino HET Talbino.
Balbino-Talbino X Talbino = 100%Talbino HET Balbino.

 

[Ian S.]

:idea2: LOL Gazz!:rolleyes3:

 

[godzillizard]

That is awesome, it could very well be the case, too. BalbinoTalbino sounds like a good name for a monkey thanks for the good laugh, Gazz. I was speculating that a double homo albino (BalbinoTalbino) would be way lighter than either of the 2 individual albino types?

Ian...that burgundy/maroon Bell is beautiful! I wish you still had him, so I could buy him