Blanco's

[KelliH]

My favorite combo morph.

 

[Gazz]

Here's a nother head banger :wall: .The Banco if you look on the site looks to be called blanco not coz it's het eclipse(DB).But coz it's whiter :main_thumbsdown: is't that why they where named blizzards by PP's in the first place :main_huh: .They only got yellower throught breeding the blizzard to strong tangerine strain leo's they where whiter in the first place before the where yellower.If you look on the site there are leo's tagged AS blazing blizzards het eclipse(DB) there just yellower.YELLOWER,WHITER THERE THE SAME WHAT'S WITH THE DIFFERANT NAMES FOR THE SAME MORPH FROM THE SAME PLACE.THERE GENETICS ARE THE SAME THERE BLAZING BLIZZARDS HET ECLIPSE(DB) NO MATTER HOW YELLOW OR WHITE THEY ARE.Sorry if your now deff :main_lipsrsealed: .Sorry but i think this is just wrong.To change the primary morph name of a morph he didn't make.as the leo is't expessing eclipse there for it's just blazing blizzard het eclipse(DB).Not my cup of tea but on the DB he has added to the blizzard gene vier the eyes so that for me is (if you must) but it's always eclipse blazing blizzard or albino eclipse blizzard to me.But on the site if they are albino eclipse blizzard(DB's) that are yellow some are very yellow this blanco thing goes out the window.So if a whiter BB het eclipse(DB) is called a blanco and a yellower BB het eclipse(DB) is called a blazing blizzard het eclipse(DB).Souldn't only whiter albino eclipse blizzards be called DB's and yellower albino eclipse blizzard be called eclipse/RAPTOR blazing blizzards ??????????????????? .

 

[paulnj]

Gazz.. I usually respectfully disagree with you (with added humor), but ....

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[Golden Gate Geckos]

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Now, let's hear it for the all-time BEST morph... they "HYNEEGLOW!!!! That's in NO WAY an existing combination morph!

(Can you guys tell I'm feeling better? If I keep this up, I'm either gonna get in b-i-g trouble, or have to go back to my job as the MOGL...)

 

[paulnj]

off topic, but isn't that image property of Robin?

Nice, I can add my melanistic version

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

but isn't that image property of Robin?

I guess you could say that...

 

[TokayKeeper]

Great, now newbies will be even more confused. :main_rolleyes:

Shoot, I took a hiatus and upon returning, "Mr. Genetics" is even confused.










oh, call me

I need to pick your mind. Check your pms or voicemail. LOL

 

[PacHerp]

I know that's easy for me to say since I will never be one of those breeders that puts a gecko morph on the map, and I am totally fine with that. I think it's more important to be honest, have good ethics, and produce healthy robust geckos that eat well and grow when they go out to their new homes.

Amen, Marcia!!! haha! I completely agree with you here. I don't ever plan on coming up with the next newest and greatest morph... I just want to produce healthy and happy geckos that people will love!

Thanks for reminding us about what it is all about, Marcia...

 

[eric]

wow that's a long read!!! OK so i am really new to the morphs and what produces what and cross this and get this and then when the moon is full you put this morph with this morph and get this "sigh"...WOW!!!! its very confusing my first gecko came from TUG you can image the confusion when i came here..a sunglo is what and a tangerine tornado is a what ...but with Marcia's help and the forums i might just make it...thanks guys!!

 

[boutiquegecko]

Brad, you are reading more into this thread than I think you need to. IMO, there are too many breeders looking to get their names (and the names of 'new' morphs) on the map, and it's just getting out of hand. I can hardly keep up with all the names of these combination morphs myself, so I can imagine how crazy it is for newer members to keep track of. There seems to be a certain bunch of breeders that are calling existing morphs something else that makes them their own 'special' geckos.

Case in point, Hybino, Sunglow, Hyglow. There used to be only one patternless morph, and now we have to call them 'Murphy patternless' because the APTOR and RAPTOR have the term 'patternless' in it, and they are completely different morphs! The "R" in RAPTOR means 'ruby-eyed', when it is simply an albino version of an eclipse. I could go on and on...

I produce some awesome patternless (Murphy, that is) with carrot-tails. They are not a cross, they are line-bred. But I chose to call them Patternless CT's instead of "the Marcia Morph" or a "Patty-Glow" because it best describes the morph by the existing nomenclature, and I am not as competitive or egotistical as some of the other guys.

I know that's easy for me to say since I will never be one of those breeders that puts a gecko morph on the map, and I am totally fine with that. I think it's more important to be honest, have good ethics, and produce healthy robust geckos that eat well and grow when they go out to their new homes.

I couldn't have said that better
And good to see you Kelli.

 

[Brhaco]

LOL-I guess I'm weird then-I like all the cool names in herpetoculture. To me, if something has a new and unique appearance, one that has never been seen before, then I think the breeder is totally justified in naming it, I love the "bumblebee", the "spied". and the "RAPTOR". How boring would it be to merely name them with a long string of their constituent morphs?

In the case of the DB that would be particularly awkward": Ruby-eyed Albino Patternless Tremper Orange Blazing Blizzard!:main_laugh:

Marcia, I think if and when you come out with a morph with a radically new and different appearance, you'll be the first to jealously protect your right to name that gecko! I think anyone here would do the same-I know I would!

Brad Chambers

 

[malt_geckos]

WOWZERS! That's one sweet morph Kelli! Marcia- I like the one's you created too! lol.

Well, in my opinion, calling the blancos and BBs something different may just be a way to make some money? I like Tremper lines and that's a lot of what we own, but the whole Blanco thing is kinda dissapointing....


I really don't like how some breeders give morphs different names...it kinda messes up our lines. I'm not trying to pick on Ron but his Emerald line kinda messes things up.... It's like this: He calls them emeralds but he doesn't say what they are all of the time. Emerald is just line bred for color, but it messes things up in other breeders lines who don't know what the emerald is...In many cases they are just line bred tangerines I think. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure the emerald isn't a new morph.

We are working on a certain project as well where the above could apply to us but we are keeping records to make sure the buyer know what they are getting and we aren't going to give an overall name to a bunch of different morphs.

I dunno if any of that made sense. lol...I hope it did...

I can't get over that awesome bluebino or whatever you called it Marcia. lol. I've got to pick one of those up! Will you have them available in 2030?

 

[paulnj]

How boring would it be to merely name them with a long string of their constituent morphs?

In the case of the DB that would be particularly awkward": Ruby-eyed Albino Patternless Tremper Orange Blazing Blizzard!:main_laugh:

Brad Chambers

So , may I ask how many RAPTORs were thrown from every DB x RAPTOR for you to make that statement? I don't think the patterning genes they carry will ever be uniform due to the odds of probability with the crossing of the genes

 

[KelliH]

off topic, but isn't that image property of Robin?

Actually, ownership of the HyneeGlow is shared 50-50 between myself and Robin.

 

[KelliH]

For example-Kevin Mccurley of NERD first produce the spider pastel Ball Python. He named it the Bumblebee-which was immediately and to this day accepted by the hobby as a whole.

I feel the same way about the ball python names too, and it seems that some people want the leopard gecko hobby to become just like the ball python market was a few years ago. Personally, I don't want that, I did not like the way it seemed to be all about money to 90% of the people breeding those snakes, I found it rather sickening actually.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Marcia, I think if and when you come out with a morph with a radically new and different appearance, you'll be the first to jealously protect your right to name that gecko! I think anyone here would do the same-I know I would!

Well, in the remote chance I ever have a random genetic mutation pop out of any of my geckos, I'll be the first to eat my words when I name it the "NEVHAP" (never happen)morph!

 

[Brhaco]

So , may I ask how many RAPTORs were thrown from every DB x RAPTOR for you to make that statement? I don't think the patterning genes they carry will ever be uniform due to the odds of probability with the crossing of the genes

I know that several RAPTORS have hatched as by-products of Ron's DB project. It of course is a small percentage, given what all has to come together for a RAPTOR to hatch. Suprisingly, Ron's collection manager tells me that patternless animals were more common than patterned in this project.

Brad Chambers

 

[dprince]

This is a *very* interesting discussion. Kelli, I will take a 1.1 hyneeglow. Marcia, put me on the waiting list for the NEVHAP.

I agree, it really is irritating for all these names to come popping out, when I just want the plain ol' genetics. Give me the straight scoop any day.

 

[paulnj]

Good to know Brad.

 

[TokayKeeper]

LOL-I guess I'm weird then-I like all the cool names in herpetoculture. To me, if something has a new and unique appearance, one that has never been seen before, then I think the breeder is totally justified in naming it, I love the "bumblebee", the "spied". and the "RAPTOR". How boring would it be to merely name them with a long string of their constituent morphs?

Brad Chambers

Isn't KW like that with scientific names and common names? :main_laugh:

At least these are lizards and not salamanders. We'd never hear the end of it from Kenny!