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hello everyone i was wondering if it would be all right if i used some ultra fine anti sand as my substrate for my 2 female leapord geckos.
 

Zbiz

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anti sand??? wats that? Id say stick with Repticarpet or paper towels.
 

Kotsay1414

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I currently use sand in my 30 gallon tank with four adult females. I've also used sand for the past 10 years. I have had no problems at all with sand.

I guess it comes down to personal preferance.
 

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Stay away from sand, its not safe or natural. Go with whats safe, paper towels,newspaper, tiles, and if you want something that is natural and safe, go with slate rock.
 

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ReptileMan27 said:
Stay away from sand, its not safe or natural. Go with whats safe, paper towels,newspaper, tiles, and if you want something that is natural and safe, go with slate rock.

I agree, as long as the possibility is there of something bad happening with the sand I just don't think it is worth the risk.
 

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ReptileMan27 said:
Stay away from sand, its not safe or natural. Go with whats safe, paper towels,newspaper, tiles, and if you want something that is natural and safe, go with slate rock.
I mean to come off wrong. But last time I checked, Leopard Geckos were from South West Asia, which consist of lots of desert. I've used sand for 10 years and I have never had a problem. I see nothing wrong with sand, you just have to watch your geckos and act if you notice anything un-natural from them.
 

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I think it's funny how the word sand starts a debate EVERY TIME. I agree to not use sand for the simple reason many people have stated. If there is a possibility, why risk it? I have now used sand, paper towel, and tile in my tank. I think tile looks the best and it cost me a grand total of..... $3! Yes you have to clean it, but you never have to change it. I am sure many of you have had success with sand, but seeing just 1 case of sand being a problem is reason enough for me to stay away.
 

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If its ultra fine it doesnt really matter as long as theyre above like 45 grams. Kelli used filtered sand for a while and she said she never had any problems. So as long as they arent too small you sohuld be good.
 

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Kotsay1414 said:
I mean to come off wrong. But last time I checked, Leopard Geckos were from South West Asia, which consist of lots of desert. I've used sand for 10 years and I have never had a problem. I see nothing wrong with sand, you just have to watch your geckos and act if you notice anything un-natural from them.
Leopard geckos come from more rock areas, slate rock or clay would be the 2 most natural things for leos:main_thumbsup:. Sand is always the most debated thing, to me I dont see the debate, its simple, you either go with whats safe but may not look as good, or you go with something that has risks, but looks nicer. To me a nicer looking cage isnt worth the risk of my leos life.
 

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I mean to come off wrong. But last time I checked, Leopard Geckos were from South West Asia, which consist of lots of desert.
The natural habitat of Leopard Geckos is NOT sand. The live in the high, mountainous deserts where the soil is hard-pack clay strewn about with coarse chunks of granite, scrub vegetation, and NOT SAND. They live in the rocky outcroppings of granite rock and sandstone, and the only sand there is comes from the natural erosion of the sandstone, and it is sparse.

Personally, I am getting sick and tired of sand substrate wars. In the nearly 12 years of keeping leopard geckos, I have had to deal with literally HUNDREDS of emails and phone calls from people who's geckos were either sick and or died from sand impaction. So why would you want to risk the health and lives of your leos just simply because you are tired of crickets going under the paper towel? Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't happen!

You guys probably wont't get too much sympathy from the other members of this GREAT resource forum if God forbid one of your geckos has to needlessly suffer due to the consequences of your choice of substrate.
 

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Golden Gate Geckos said:
The natural habitat of Leopard Geckos is NOT sand. The live in the high, mountainous deserts where the soil is hard-pack clay strewn about with coarse chunks of granite, scrub vegetation, and NOT SAND. They live in the rocky outcroppings of granite rock and sandstone, and the only sand there is comes from the natural erosion of the sandstone, and it is sparse.

Personally, I am getting sick and tired of sand substrate wars. In the nearly 12 years of keeping leopard geckos, I have had to deal with literally HUNDREDS of emails and phone calls from people who's geckos were either sick and or died from sand impaction. So why would you want to risk the health and lives of your leos just simply because you are tired of crickets going under the paper towel? Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't happen!

You guys probably wont't get too much sympathy from the other members of this GREAT resource forum if God forbid one of your geckos has to needlessly suffer due to the consequences of your choice of substrate.


She may be mean, she may be old, but she IS the Gecko Lady.

P.S. I don't think you're mean or old, and I agree 100%
 

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Scott&Nikki said:
She may be mean, she may be old, but she IS the Gecko Lady.

P.S. I don't think you're mean or old, and I agree 100%
LOL, well I wouldnt say mean but right to the point:main_thumbsup:. I couldnt agree more
 

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I see nothing wrong with sand, you just have to watch your geckos and act if you notice anything un-natural from them.
Why not use a substrate where you won't HAVE to watch your geckos for anything 'un-natural? You said it yourself, "UN-NATURAL".

Yes, I am the "mean old gecko lady" that happens to care about the health and well-being of these beautiful, gentle creatures! They are not in the wild anymore, so they can't make their own choices about their substrate. We have to do it for them, and I really feel they deserve the BEST we can provide for them.
 

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Golden Gate Geckos said:
Yes, I am the "mean old gecko lady" that happens to care about the health and well-being of these beautiful, gentle creatures!

lol don't need to blow up at me. I have posted the exact same thing on this thread and others and said I agree with what you said. And in case I didn't say it before, thank you for the advice on getting mine off of sand. I did it minutes later. There... something to make you happy. lol
 

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