Eclipse????

[Halley]

Okay, so now we have two theories. That the eclipse eye is either connected to the patterns (strip patterns), or the white tip on the nose. Here is what I wonder now. Is the eclipse eye is indeed linked with the strip genes. Why hasn’t it showed up in the other strip patterns? It is pretty unlikely that it hasn’t. But then why was RT the first to take advantage of this? If something new was discovered, I would think you would breed for it right away. So why don’t people? Also a LOT of geckos seem to have white on the tip of there noses, is this the same thing, where in fact the eclipse eye has been around for a while, and people just haven’t taken advantage of it?

Also Jeremy are the eclipse eyes that you showed, albino geckos as well? I would think that they would be red, but from what Gazz said I guess maybe not (I might have mis read it.) I would think that they would be, as the super snow eclipse eye, turns red, when mixed with the Las Vegas gene. And Mel you bring up a good point, where it is unlikely to get the combo, but possible. So Gazz might be right on that as, well. Maybe there is some ancestry in these two lines, and we are on the same road, to the same gene.

Are you planning on doing any test breeding with this group, Jeremy?

 

[Gazz]

Okay, so now we have two theories. That the eclipse eye is either connected to the patterns (strip patterns), or the white tip on the nose.

It's not really either more like and.It's is beleaved that eclipse is somehow linked to striped crosssing somehow unlocking the eye trait'etc.And when eclipse is expressed 99.99% of eclipse eyed leo's express a clear white washed nose.Some also a white washed upper and lower lip line.And a white wash of the frount legs/feet'etc.Also some express the white wash between the eyes-(on the forehead) often shows the bluey/green colour.

 

[preacherman]

Silly Jeremy. This whole thing is really quite simple. If you breed two geckos together that both display the Eclipse eye gene, you get.......more geckos. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

 

[Paco]

No thats funny.

Silly Jeremy. This whole thing is really quite simple. If you breed two geckos together that both display the Eclipse eye gene, you get.......more geckos. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

No thats funny and true. :main_laugh:

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

Thats an "Eclipse"! I think.

Why hasn’t it showed up in the other stripe patterns?

Well the patterning lines themselves work in the same way, it just takes awhile for each step. Stripes came out of Jungles. Reverse Stripes came out of Stripes. I am pretty sure that breeding Stripes or Reverse Stripes together will eventually yield a "Patternless Stripe/Designer"(Aptor pattern). However the combination of Reverse Stripe X Stripe(from compatible lines) proves to be the best way to make them. You can not make a "homemade" Eclipse without getting to that step IMO. Since it is a combination of genes, I do not think you`de ever hatch Eclipse from plain Stripes, that are not het Aptor or Raptor. You need to build up to that point, so to speak.

Kelli is right once you have the "mutation" you can make hets just like it was a recessive trait. Same goes for the Aptor/Patternless Stripe patterning trait. Once you have a gecko displaying it or even a "carrier" of it(siblings etc.) you have got yourself a "het Eclipse". For these reasons, and a few more than I care to type out right now, I feel this is a case of a "cooperating recessive". Which just means, when two or more recessive traits exist polygenically.

 

[dprince]

Silly Jeremy. This whole thing is really quite simple. If you breed two geckos together that both display the Eclipse eye gene, you get.......more geckos. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

:main_laugh: I almost fell out my seat Jason!!