Egg Experiment

[CSMGecko]

I found eggs in the hide box a few weeks ago and they were on the opposite ends of the box. This is the first time that this has happened so i am not sure if one was moved or not. When candeled them I noticed that one bullseye was on the bottom and the other bullseye was on the top. I tried finding out if it mattered or not without any real proof. Just guesses from people and what they have done. So I decided to conduct my own experiment. I put them in my incubator as is with one on the bottom and one at the top. They both seem to be doing fine right now but I will be posting my results of this test. Hopefully it won't matter but it will be nice knowing for sure if I should have rotated the egg or not. We'll see.

 

[Baoh]

Barring extraneous variables, I'd expect both to be fine. I have some eggs near term that have developed from both beginnings and don't seem to show differences. The amount of mass involved is minor. Good luck.

 

[fallen_angel]

SWEET!! Because right now, we candle them and make sure it's on the top. So we'll be very interested to know how your experiment works out.. if it doesn't matter either way, then that'll be good to know

 

[justindh1]

I hear that with-in the first 24 hours you can roll a egg or have it turn upside down and be fine. Past that i think you are taking your chances of the egg drowning. If they were just layed then I don't see a problem at all. Being that eggs are just that when they come out, eggs, then i don't see why it would matter what way you lay them because the eggs hasn't started to grom into something "living" yet. They will just settle in what way you place them. Maybe i'm wrong but that my input which may not amount to much.

I think that it could matter either way because a egg could be harmed and instead of two hatchling you could just get 1 or none.

 

[Gregg M]

Unforunately, there are only 2 eggs in this "experiment"... You need a much larger study group for you to get any type of proof either way... At this point your "experiment" is nothing more than a tiny observation that will yeild nothing...

 

[CSMGecko]

I hear that with-in the first 24 hours you can roll a egg or have it turn upside down and be fine. Past that i think you are taking your chances of the egg drowning. If they were just layed then I don't see a problem at all. Being that eggs are just that when they come out, eggs, then i don't see why it would matter what way you lay them because the eggs hasn't started to grom into something "living" yet. They will just settle in what way you place them. Maybe i'm wrong but that my input which may not amount to much.

I think that it could matter either way because a egg could be harmed and instead of two hatchling you could just get 1 or none.

This is exactly what I am trying to find. If the theory of within 24 hours is correct and you don't need to rotate them at all from when you find them. I check my hide boxes daily and so I know when all my eggs are laid within 24 hours. The drowning of eggs is just the risk of the experiment and if an egg doesn't do Ok then I know it matters. That is why i am only doing it with 2 eggs at a time. As for it only being 2 eggs, I expect to be doing this for many clutches to test findings and replicate the experiment. I just don't want to put all my eggs into one basket...lol.

 

[Gregg M]

I can already tell you what your results will be...

If you find the eggs and place them in the incubator as you found them, providing they are fertile and have been given the proper conditions to thrive and hatch, they will all hatch no matter where you saw the bullseye...

There ya go...

 

[houseape57]

I just don't get the drowning part. No matter where the embro is in the egg there is embryonic (sp) fluid, so wouldn't it drown anywhere in the egg? Is there an air pocket that they breath? Isn't their first breath taken shortly after pipping? I guess I didn't pay attention in science class, can someone please explain.

Kathy

 

[Gregg M]

A better term to use would be suffocation rather than drowning...

 

[herpencounter]

It’s a big misconception that the embryos forum on the top of an egg (or have to be on top to survive).
It does not matter where in the egg attaches, as long as it does not get moved… there is NO difference if it is on top, bottom, left, right, up, down or side to side as long as it stays in the same spot.

Now it does take a few hours before it attaches to the egg, so moving it a few hours after it has been laid does nothing (IMO). I still say DON’T move it.


J

 

[Kristi23]

I always put them in the incubator as I find them. I've had the bullseye show up on top, bottom, and sides and it didn't matter.

 

[houseape57]

Gregg, what do they suffocate on? They don't breath in the egg, perhaps you are saying that they suffocate with the pressure of the fluid pushing on them?

 

[Gregg M]

Gregg, what do they suffocate on? They don't breath in the egg, perhaps you are saying that they suffocate with the pressure of the fluid pushing on them?

No... Moving/rotating the egg after the embryo attaches to the egg wall can/will cause vital blood vessels to detach from the egg membrane... The end result is a dead embryo due to not getting a supply of oxygen... The embryo does indeed suffocate...

 

[houseape57]

Why thank you Gregg, ya learn something new everyday.

Kathy