f1?

[zotto]

what is the difference between a regular nova,(or other morph) and a nova 2 copy enigma variant? I was using a morph calculater and the outcome was different with the 2 copy. also what is the difference between a regular morph and a a f1 or f2 version?

 

[Khrysty]

I can answer the second part of your question..maybe someone else can answer the first.

F1 is the first generation of whatever morph, F2 is the second generation. They're used in line breeding. For instance. If you have a really cool morph you're trying to make, we'll call it "comet," the hatchlings from first pairing of x morph and y morph would be F1 comets. If you breed those offspring together, their hatchlings would be F2 comets, and so on.

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

The difference between 1 or 2 copy enigma is how many copies of the enigma gene the gecko have. In order to get a 2 copy enigma you would have to breed 2 enigmas together and then from the enigmas that hatch you have to test breed them to determine if the enigma has 1 or 2 copies. A 2 copy enigma and 1 copy will look identical just a 2 copy enigma will produce all enigma offspring.

 

[robin]

I can answer the second part of your question..maybe someone else can answer the first.

F1 is the first generation of whatever morph, F2 is the second generation. They're used in line breeding. For instance. If you have a really cool morph you're trying to make, we'll call it "comet," the hatchlings from first pairing of x morph and y morph would be F1 comets. If you breed those offspring together, their hatchlings would be F2 comets, and so on.

actually f1, f2 etc. are terms generally used to define how many generation an animal has been produced out of the wild. for instance. i buy two wild caught geckos. i breed the and they are the first generation offspring born to wild caught parents. now if you take the f1's and breed those together you get f2's. for the life of me i am having a brain fart on what the f stands for LOL

*f stands for filial

 

[Khrysty]

actually f1, f2 etc. are terms generally used to define how many generation an animal has been produced out of the wild. for instance. i buy two wild caught geckos. i breed the and they are the first generation offspring born to wild caught parents. now if you take the f1's and breed those together you get f2's. for the life of me i am having a brain fart on what the f stands for LOL

*f stands for filial

Oh yeah.. I knew that actually. Silly me lol

Ignore what I said and listen to Robin

 

[SophiaDarcie]

Then how are there F1 creamsicles and F2 creamsicles?!?! From my understanding, Khrysty, you were correct in your first post, as Robin was about the WC's.

 

[robin]

Then how are there F1 creamsicles and F2 creamsicles?!?! From my understanding, Khrysty, you were correct in your first post, as Robin was about the WC's.

i guesss you can use it like this but in leos there are prolly f15's pout there somewhere LOL

here is a good link though http://www.redtailboas.com/forum/genetics-forum/31268-filial-generations-f1-f2-f3-etc.html

 

[SophiaDarcie]

i guesss you can use it like this but in leos there are prolly f15's pout there somewhere LOL

here is a good link though http://www.redtailboas.com/forum/genetics-forum/31268-filial-generations-f1-f2-f3-etc.html

Your point makes sense, and the thread link helped a bit. But I can see how using F1 F2 etc can help someone developing a line (tons in inbreeding) up until the line is perfected. Like if I'm making a morph called "slime" or whatever it's just an example, the first mix would be crosses, I can see them being named F1 "slime project"'s. Once you get the genetics you want, I don't see the point in naming them F1 F2 F3 etc. So F1 creams to me is just a SHTCTB x Super Snow/Mack Snow baby. F2's would be the cross x cross. Once you get the color of a creamsicle by definition of the description provided from JMG, then they're creamsicles. Not F1's F2's F3's.

Whatever, I'm just rambling now. Haha. But that's how I see it. When it comes down to it, they're all geckos.

 

[Tony C]

Filial generations simply denote that a particular organism is X number of generations away from a particular set of parents. Parents are P generation, their offspring are F1, the offspring of F1 are F2, and so on. It does not necessarily reflect the parent's origin, although the way Robin explained it does seem to be convention in the herp hobby.