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Gazz

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Yes, there is Hypo and Super Hypo. Hypo means there are less than 10 spots on the back and Super Hypo means there are none (as you can see in Joey's picture).

Breeding those two should give you Hypo Tangs.

A Hypo is a leo with spot retained with the darker bands/Body saddles.It's not about how meny spots.It's as simple as if it has spots with in the darker bands/Body saddles that 1-spot to a 100-spots that a Hypo.If it has NO! body spots it's a Super hypo.Super in hypo is a Polygenic tradit(line bred) so a Super hypo is both Dominant and Polygenic.

Note the hypo in the link below.Note where the spots are.And that it has way more then 10 spot.And it's deffo 100% a hypo.Sorry but that whole 10 spots hypo and 9 spots Hi-yellow has always never made sence to me.Coz a Hi-yellow for a start is nothing to do with spots.Hi-yellow is back ground color tone.

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Gazz

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I have two questions. Is there any color differents from a 1 copy hypo and a 2 copy hypo?

Plus if I crossed this high yellow to this SHTB what would the offspring more then likely look like?

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No!, [1C]Hypo and [2C]Hypo can be just hypo, Hypo tangerine, Super hypo, Super hypo tangerine'etc. There is no visual differance between a [1C] and [2C] Hypos. The only differance is [1C]Hypo with give 50% Hypo type offspring when bred to a Normal. And a [2C]Hypo type will give 100% Hypo type offspring when bred to a Normal.

[1C]Super hypo tangerine X Normal = .

Normal.
[1C]Hypo.

A percent of the offspring will be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of the Hypo type offspring will liklely mature into Super hypo.
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[2C]Super hypo tangerine X Normal = .

[1C]Hypo.

A percent of the offspring will be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of the Hypo type offspring will liklely mature into Super hypo.
 
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l3onhart

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Hello,

Can i know what is the outcome of the offspring if i were to pair a tremper enigma with a hypo snow het tremper 50% het raptor?
 

winwin

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Guys can someone help out? I'm planning to breed my female after it lays it's final clutch with a tremper albino. My female is I think sa hypo tang of some sort. The previous owner can't really tell me. But this is my female:
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6700user

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I have a nice Bell Sunglow female that I would like to breed at some point. I want to breed to improve the boldness of the orange color. What morph of male do you think would be a good match for the desired outcome?
 

mroczas

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Well, i already asked Sunshinegeckos about that (thank you) but always good to know many points of view so..

Got 2 males: Tangerine Enigma het. Nova and CHCTTJA het. RAPTOR
and also 2 females: Tangerine het. RAPTOR het. Eclipse and Talbino Enigma

What good morphs i can get, another then normals, from what pairing, and also what female i can buy to get even more. Ive got some point of view already but i want to hear from you about that case.

Thanks and sorry for my bad eng.
 

endrien

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I have a Hypo Tangerine(http://i41.tinypic.com/f1msxx.jpg)
and I am looking at a few possible mates, one of the options is a Tremper Albino that appears to have a bit of orange to him(different one than my other post)
and I am also looking at a Tangerine. I love the look of the Trempers, but unless my my girl by some chance happens to have Tremper, the baby's would not show it? They would just be Hypo Het tremper? What would be the best option?
 

LeoGirl575

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Is it bad to cross TUG snows and regular Mack snows? Because I bought a gecko from Urban Reptile that was listed as a Mack snow Enigma, but everyone's saying that all their snows are from TUG snow line. Could someone clear this up for me, please?

Thank you!
Steph
 

Owens

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Not all of the snows that come from TUG are from their own line. They do sell mack snows and mack super snows. The TUG snows are the ones that they (TUG - The urban gecko) has spent time breeding to make their own :).

Quote from the urban reptiles website:
"If there’s an absolute ideal for this type of morph, we think this is it. We acquired this incredible gene pool as a wild-caught group several years ago and we have been selectively breeding them ever since. The TUG Snow is a type of axanthic, a genetic trait where the subject has little or no yellow pigment. In most cases this trait has been proven to be co-dominant but in our group, it’s dominant. Our exclusive Snows are unrelated to any other Snow lines known in captivity, boasting incredible white coloration and reduced black spotting. This is a unique and special bloodline that remains in very high demand and we feel fortunate that it is an Urban Gecko exclusive. "
 

Desdemona

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They are right, TUG does label their geckos... so if you bought a TUG snow.. its a line breed not a Mack. I don't know if they label all of their hets though.

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aaronc28

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Lol..i wondered why they didn't have shtctb, jungle, bandit, etc...Gazz is exactly right. It still would be awesome if somehow they could incorporate it into the calculator. They probably need to have a posting on the site explaining why they're not included, that way people can better understand. This is a really great website and I have used it countless times.
 

LoveGeckos.com

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Lol..i wondered why they didn't have shtctb, jungle, bandit, etc...Gazz is exactly right. It still would be awesome if somehow they could incorporate it into the calculator. They probably need to have a posting on the site explaining why they're not included, that way people can better understand. This is a really great website and I have used it countless times.


Taken from the website FAQs

1. Polygenic traits (poly = many | genic = genes), why they are not in your calculator?

Polygenic traits are highly unpredictable genes and are not simply recessive, dominant, or co-dominant. We currently do not support polygenetic traits (red stripes, bold stripes, halloween masks, etc) with the Reptile Calculator software in order to make sure your genetic results are as accurate as possible.


At the bottom of each calculator in the footer

NOTE

Every effort has been made to ensure that the Reptile Calculator is accurate. Our understanding of reptile genetics are changing at a rapid pace and we will do our best to keep the calculator up-to-date, although with the frantic pace of new genes being identified or better understanding of existing genes, it is impossible to have every gene covered or be 100% accurate all the time.

The Reptile Calculator should only be used as a guide and cannot guarantee any outcomes that occur in your breeding programs.

Reptile Calculator only covers Recessive, Co-dominant and Dominant genes and does not take into account Polygenic genes. Polygenic genes are extremely hard to predict and for that reason we prefer not to include them in our calculator, as we want to be as accurate as we can.

More work to Do
Although I agree it should be more prominant, and a better explanation, I will make sure that gets done.

Polygenic
There are various ways that we could incoporate them, but untill someone comes up with a good way of including them or we have a Eureka moment, they are out for now.
 

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