I have to walk 2 miles in 30 - 40 degree weather to get my Leo to the vet,

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SidAndCira

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How do I keep him warm through that? I was going to heat the blanket,
but it cools of fast in that weather. Parents don't want to drive me, so I'm
forced to walk. But that won't stop me from getting him to the vet!
 

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As far as the science behind it. I remember learning about it in school but I couldn't tell you off the top of my head. Also bundle yourself up for that walk. It's going to be brutal.
 

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As far as the science behind it. I remember learning about it in school but I couldn't tell you off the top of my head. Also bundle yourself up for that walk. It's going to be brutal.

It's gonna suck, I can't even walk around a store without getting tired, LOL. I'm so lazy. T__T Thanks for your advice! I just hope I can find some heat packs.
 

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You should be able to find heat packs at the sporting section in wal mart or any other sports store. I can't believe your parents won't drive you 2 stinkin miles... geesh... howz about a friend maybe???
 

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If you can't find heat packs, put the leo in a deli cup and carry it against your body under your jacket.

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Thanks! I always wondered why newspaper keeps things insulated so well, do you know?

Air between the folds. Air and paper are both relatively poor conductors of heat, so heat that is surrounded by air pockets and paper does not have anywhere to go, dissipating the energy slowly.


I can't believe your parents won't drive you 2 stinkin miles... geesh... howz about a friend maybe???

It's just a guess, but given a few of the posts this person has written, I doubt that they are the eighteen years old listed on their profile. I'd say it's possible- probably even likely, that they don't have friends who drive.

They also said, when they previously had an issue that the vet was over an hour away though, so the two mile distance is a bit perplexing.

Posts seven and fourteen in this thread- http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=70930 are somewhat enlightening.

Ultimately, though they probably do not want to hear it, it sounds like they are not in a place in their life right now where they can really fulfill all the responsibilities that come with pet ownership. Being able to take an animal for medical care is one of those responsibilities. If that is problematic or impossible to do for any reason; cost, distance, scheduling and transportation- then a responsible individual would look at their situation objectively and choose to not own animals they can't care for properly.
 

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Air between the folds. Air and paper are both relatively poor conductors of heat, so heat that is surrounded by air pockets and paper does not have anywhere to go, dissipating the energy slowly.




It's just a guess, but given a few of the posts this person has written, I doubt that they are the eighteen years old listed on their profile. I'd say it's possible- probably even likely, that they don't have friends who drive.

They also said, when they previously had an issue that the vet was over an hour away though, so the two mile distance is a bit perplexing.

Posts seven and fourteen in this thread- http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=70930 are somewhat enlightening.

Ultimately, though they probably do not want to hear it, it sounds like they are not in a place in their life right now where they can really fulfill all the responsibilities that come with pet ownership. Being able to take an animal for medical care is one of those responsibilities. If that is problematic or impossible to do for any reason; cost, distance, scheduling and transportation- then a responsible individual would look at their situation objectively and choose to not own animals they can't care for properly.

"Being able to take an animal for medical care is one of those responsibilities. If that is problematic or impossible to do for any reason; cost, distance, scheduling and transportation- then a responsible individual would look at their situation objectively and choose to not own animals they can't care for properly." But... he IS and HAS been going to the vet, therefore I am indeed caring for him whether or not it meets my schedule, cost, distance, etc. The vet I tried to go to before was 52 minutes away (the one we are familiar with and bring our dogs to since my parents know someone who works there well), we found another that's just two miles and has a herp. I don't mind if you don't think I'm eighteen (just turned it a few months ago), no idea why that would matter and has anything to do with this question anyway; I'm honestly confused as to why you bother posting after what you said before, Surinamensis. I appreciate your comment on the newspaper, though! :)
 
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SidAndCira

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You should be able to find heat packs at the sporting section in wal mart or any other sports store. I can't believe your parents won't drive you 2 stinkin miles... geesh... howz about a friend maybe???

I would if they drove, I'm the oldest of my friends, 18, and I JUST turned 18
December,haha. All of my friends are either 16 or 17 and don't have a licence.
 

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Sorry but... but nice family... I'd never make my son pay me for taking him anywhere. I consider it part of my parental obligations. So how'd the vet visit go? Any updates?
 

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Sorry but... but nice family... I'd never make my son pay me for taking him anywhere. I consider it part of my parental obligations. So how'd the vet visit go? Any updates?

I know. :(

He's good, I called (was paranoid) earlier and have to pick him up at 5PM. She said she got the impactions out and gave me some fresh Baytril for free.
 

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Age should not matter if you ask me.. And I find it a bit rude them even saying anything about that. As long as you get your pet to the vet and do what your suppose to do even if you have to walk I dont see the problem.. The pet gets the treatment they need.. Ive seen grown adults who have money and the transportation not do anything about there sick reptile or pet and thats no right.. And the are OLDER then 18..... At least you got him there even if you had to walk in the cold. Your getting him the help he needed. Im sorry if anyone finds what I said offensive but in my opinion I think it sounded pretty rude to jump down someones throat about there age and whatnot even after you said your getting him to the vet..
Im glad they fixed the little guy up for you though! Good job :)..
 

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Age should not matter if you ask me.. And I find it a bit rude them even saying anything about that.

Reading comprehension failure powers, activate!

Age matters a great deal in some cases. It has a direct or indirect impact on all kinds of things which factor into pet ownership. Income potential, control over their housing situation, the need to abide by the edicts of parents or schools, limited capacity to act as a fully recognized independent legal entity.

Take this case, there were concerns which led the owner to decide they needed to seek veterinary care. They have a limited income (as noted in the other thread) that enforces a hard cap on how much they can spend for that care if it becomes necessary, they are reliant on other people to provide them with transportation and they have a very limited pool of individuals who are capable of helping them, as their friends are sixteen and seventeen and cannot drive.

What if it had been something more serious?

What if their parent hadn't eventually agreed to take them, because it was inconvenient, impossible or simply not their responsibility?

Since age is the subject at hand- what happens to this person's animals if they choose to go to college or move out of their parents' house? It is pretty obvious that the mother and father are not interested in taking care of these pets that are being accumulated and the ability to take them into a new situation is questionable at best.

There are plenty of responsible young pet owners, but if you ask them they will all acknowledge that they recognize their age can potentially create some complications. They have made their animals a priority, made sure they have the support they need to do the things they might have more difficulty with on their own. Their parents support them keeping animals in the house, they have a car of their own or multiple ways to get around, they have someone backing them financially or a job that they work specifically to put away enough money for emergency care, they limit the size of their collections and make sure their animals have someone who can take care of them if the college dorms have a no pet policy. Being young doesn't prevent pet ownership, it is just one factor which can have an impact on it, in addition to all the factors that would be considered by anyone else.

Loving animals is a great reason to own a pet. It needs to be coupled with a determination to do things the right way, to ensure beyond a doubt that the animal is cared for in the way it needs to be. Sometimes a person is in a place in their life when they simply cannot meet the needs of the animal they want to keep. When that happens, the responsible thing to do is to not own one.

From what SidandCira has told us about themselves, their animals and their difficulties; they might not be in a place right now where pet ownership is a good idea. They mentioned money being a factor, they are not capable of their own transportation, they are living with parents who are indifferent or even opposed to the pets being present (rather than willing to help) and there are medical concerns and life altering situations going on with human relatives that are a priority. Strictly from what they have said, it might be better for the geckos to give them to someone who isn't dealing with all that.
 

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Reading comprehension failure powers, activate!

Age matters a great deal in some cases. It has a direct or indirect impact on all kinds of things which factor into pet ownership. Income potential, control over their housing situation, the need to abide by the edicts of parents or schools, limited capacity to act as a fully recognized independent legal entity.

Take this case, there were concerns which led the owner to decide they needed to seek veterinary care. They have a limited income (as noted in the other thread) that enforces a hard cap on how much they can spend for that care if it becomes necessary, they are reliant on other people to provide them with transportation and they have a very limited pool of individuals who are capable of helping them, as their friends are sixteen and seventeen and cannot drive.

What if it had been something more serious?

What if their parent hadn't eventually agreed to take them, because it was inconvenient, impossible or simply not their responsibility?

Since age is the subject at hand- what happens to this person's animals if they choose to go to college or move out of their parents' house? It is pretty obvious that the mother and father are not interested in taking care of these pets that are being accumulated and the ability to take them into a new situation is questionable at best.

There are plenty of responsible young pet owners, but if you ask them they will all acknowledge that they recognize their age can potentially create some complications. They have made their animals a priority, made sure they have the support they need to do the things they might have more difficulty with on their own. Their parents support them keeping animals in the house, they have a car of their own or multiple ways to get around, they have someone backing them financially or a job that they work specifically to put away enough money for emergency care, they limit the size of their collections and make sure their animals have someone who can take care of them if the college dorms have a no pet policy. Being young doesn't prevent pet ownership, it is just one factor which can have an impact on it, in addition to all the factors that would be considered by anyone else.

Loving animals is a great reason to own a pet. It needs to be coupled with a determination to do things the right way, to ensure beyond a doubt that the animal is cared for in the way it needs to be. Sometimes a person is in a place in their life when they simply cannot meet the needs of the animal they want to keep. When that happens, the responsible thing to do is to not own one.

From what SidandCira has told us about themselves, their animals and their difficulties; they might not be in a place right now where pet ownership is a good idea. They mentioned money being a factor, they are not capable of their own transportation, they are living with parents who are indifferent or even opposed to the pets being present (rather than willing to help) and there are medical concerns and life altering situations going on with human relatives that are a priority. Strictly from what they have said, it might be better for the geckos to give them to someone who isn't dealing with all that.


These are exactly the reasons many parents say no more pets to their children. Reptiles can be addictive! Gotta have more more more... I don't think I've ever met someone whose had children that didn't leave a pet behind when they moved out, usually a dog or cat. Parents who aren't so fond of reptiles will most likely limit what they allow their child to bring into their home, again, for the above stated reasons.
 
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