he is talking about jungal, there is big diferents between jungal and stripe!
stripe is recercive, no one argue on this... but jungal is absolutely polygenetic... that all...
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he is talking about jungal, there is big diferents between jungal and stripe!
stripe is recercive, no one argue on this... but jungal is absolutely polygenetic... that all...
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Again, what is your source? Do you realize that you are arguing with people who have probably been breeding geckos longer than you have been alive?
I've never heard that Jungles needed a striped tail... Some say Jungles have to have broken neck bands as well... Characteristics like a striped tail or broken neck band just make them seem like failed or lesser Stripes... My understanding of a Jungle is a gecko with an aberrant body and tail pattern... In other words, there has to be breaks in the banding on the body AND tail... With only one of those traits it would be an 'Aberrant'...
It really doesn't matter because without a true breed standard it's just hearsay...
It really doesn't matter because without a true breed standard it's just hearsay...
That could've been... I won't throw that possibility out... It's my opinion that they were derived through the SS striped pattern...
umm genetic anomalies are different than breed characteristics
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No, he was talking about producing Stripes. Go back and read his post.
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Back in the beginnings of Mack Snow breeding you would see the same Jungle pattern pop up on many geckos... Not just me, but lots of people have hatched Macks with this pattern...
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It can be seen familiar to the Jungle/Stripe relationship in traditional Jungle/Stripe lines... I doubt it is just a coincedance that so many people hatched geckos just like that from Mack Snow projects of all kinds...
Edit: Robin, I was referring to Jungles in my original post...
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perhaps some of the original normal animals crossed to snows or the original snows themselves had aberrant genes in them or even jungle genes but for the jungle or stripe to have derived from the mack snows is absurd. jungles and stripes have been around for probably 15 maybe more years (and who knows how long on aberrant animals)
also if your jungles are dominant, you breed a jungle to a normal and get all "true jungles" (aberrant bodies with aberrant tails)? or do you just get aberrant patterned and normal banded offspring?
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So, Jungle pattern can appear on a spotted mack snow x spotted mack snow? That is so cool!! :main_thumbsup:
Can't wait till my macks are up to breeding age!!:main_laugh:
Good luck with your project stinky... Mack Snows are very fun to breed...
Robin, I never suggested all Stripes or Jungles came from Mack Snows... Just that mine did... I have nothing else to say as everything is always an argument with you... And the only reason I posted on this thread was to offer my opinion that there are more than one type of Jungle...
You shouldn't be able to make people feel they have to defend themselves without recourse... It's this type of behavior that gives not just GeckoForums, but any online community a bad reputation...
Robin, I never suggested all Stripes or Jungles came from Mack Snows... Just that mine did... I have nothing else to say as everything is always an argument with you... And the only reason I posted on this thread was to offer my opinion that there are more than one type of Jungle...
You shouldn't be able to make people feel they have to defend themselves without recourse... It's this type of behavior that gives not just GeckoForums, but any online community a bad reputation...
i think there was already jungle and stripe genes in the mack snows. that it has been bred into it, thus jungles in your macks
i am not arguing at all
i would like to see more of what you are talking about. this is not an argument but i would like to see some examples of this. could whomever you got your macks from have breed the stripe or jungle gene into the snows hoping to increase the stripes that the super form have? that is very probable
perhaps the macks or even alex hue bred stripes or jungles into them just to see if there was something to it. people do these things when they are test breeding a new morph to try and find out what it is and how it works. but please prove me wrong.
you know how i am, you know how i talk. you know i am blunt and forward and i speak my mind
myself and geckoforums are two totally separate entities. do not associate me with it except as just another member.
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eyelids said:
Mike... I'm not going to defend Robin. I don't have to. She is participating in a discussion here. If she disagrees with your opinion she, or anyone else, has a right to post that she disagrees, and why.
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I don't have any personal experience to back it up, but it seems plausible at least that jungle patterning could originate from different mutations, kind of like how there is Eclipse, Blizzard "eclipse" eyes, and Super Snow "eclipse" eyes, three distinct mutations resulting in a similar visible trait.
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