Lizard NOT Eating NEED HELP FAST.

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look. I think you need to listen to our advice to make some changes in the environment to make it more comfortable for your gecko.

1. good to see you took out the sand
2. You shouldn't use bright lights or lights at all but keep it until you get a better tank heater. The gecko is probably closing his eyes because their eyes are sensitive to the lights.
3. TRY to remove the tank heater carefully and put it on the bottom. Mine is a non adhesive kind so I have it on the bottom of the tank, then taped tin foil around it so it's like a pocket or a sandwich.
4. Warm soaks may help...15-20 mins a day, once or twice a week...that may help if his vent is swollen from the plugs or whatver
5. if he is not eating, you may need to try some A/D which is from the vet. You can just go in and buy it...it's 2.50 in Canada so I dont know how much it is there. You could also try slurry but the cost would be much higher as you need to find all the ingredients. The A/D is like a dog/cat food that you can get your gecko to lick/eat. That way, he has some nutrients in him until he gets back to eating properly.
 

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We did offer you some advice which you chose to dispute. You are going to continue to have issues unless you make some changes. Your choice. Being 14 has nothing to do with that. And shame on you for lying about your age to be an adult on the internet!!!!!!!!
 

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oh and 6. you should do TONS more research. There is a search function on this forum where you can search up old posts. Compare their stories to yours and see if they had any home remedies. Try typing in...swollen vent...sperm plug...prolaspe....etc. Most of them have pictures so you can compare. Like I said, I don't really know what to say about this situation since it hasn't happen to me. The no eating part has though...and I use the A/D stuff and it's been working fine.

Good Luck
 

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Wow!! this thread has been a nightmare Ks7777 seeing that you are just a kid and that your parents are not helping you in ways. I am not trying to be mean but you need to take that keo to the vet that leo needs vet care. I know that you can not aford it but you need to think about how much your leo is suffearing. So please tell you mom and dad that your leo needs to see a vet for your leos sake. :(
 

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There is a little something call HUMANE SOCIETY. I know it sucks but again If you can't afford to care for a living creature you have no right to have it. And I agree there are ways to make money as a kid...put a lemonade stand or something. Sell your gaming system, CDs, etc. You may only be 14 but at that age you should know that one lying is wrong and letting an animal suffer just because you don't want to feel like a failure is ridiculous. Take that poor animal to the Humane Welfare Society or Humane Society.

Use your internet time to search out these places or local herp rescue and stop posting ridiculous stuff on this forum, because thats not helping your pet.
 

ks7777

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Ok I peeled it off and put it on the bottom, but it's a very smaller heater.. it said for sizes 20-30 gallon, but its smaller than a piece of paper.
 

ks7777

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I got my mom to take him to the vet now, they said it will cost 58 dollars, so ... we'll see. It's tomorrow at 5:50 PM..
 

Theinfidel

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Ask him what the @#$! is wrong with him and after he tells you he'll basically give you treatment (not for free) and give you basic directions on how to recover your gecko. By the way man putting under tank heat pad on the side of the tank...really? caring for leopard gecko's is one of the most simplest creatures to care for should of done like 10 minutes of research on how to care for one before buying it.
 

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Ask him what the @#$! is wrong with him and after he tells you he'll basically give you treatment (not for free) and give you basic directions on how to recover your gecko. By the way man putting under tank heat pad on the side of the tank...really? caring for leopard gecko's is one of the most simplest creatures to care for should of done like 10 minutes of research on how to care for one before buying it.

You're telling me how to care for my gecko, when you didn't even read my previous post, in the manual for the zoo med uth, it said to put on the side of the tank warm side, and it was recommended and my mom told me to do as it said, so we didn't mess it up so please read before you tell me how to care for my gecko.. but thanks for the reply.
 

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Kudos to you ks7777 for asking for help when you need it. I respect the fact that instead of sitting at home watching your leo die you asked for help from one of the places that you could possibly get help from many who know what they are talking about. For most of us that is why we join the forums, for a place to be able to ask questions, too bad it can't be without judgement. Perhaps more research could have been done for sure on how to set up and care for the pet but there are times when you think that you have done the right thing so why would you question the way it is set up. I thought sand was what they were supposed to be on at first until I started asking questions, because asking questions is how we learn.

My rules for my nephew when he is online is that he is not allowed to tell people his age, which happens to be 13. There is no need for him to around telling any child predators on line that he is a target. I never would have thought of it myself until I had a nephew around that age but we never know who is out there and what there intentions are.

I wish you all the luck in getting your leo better ks7777, please PM me and let me know how it turns out.

Jolene
 

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Lots of products tell you to do this or that...petco will also tell you to set up you viv as if you were caring for a Beardie...its up to you to research what your particular animal needs. The UTHs are not just used for Leo's. Had you even done a simple Google search you would find Obbers of info about how to set up a safe Leo tank.

I stand by my recommendation and that is take that creature to a Herp Rescue and wait till you have your own money flow (why you become an adult with a job) before you attemp to own another animal that is $$$ to care for in emergency situations.
 

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I think we need to stop "bullying" the fact that
a) the UTH was wrong...which I can understand that he should have done research first, but I also understand that he was just obeying the instructions
b) he lied about his age...but this has nothing to do with the gecko's situation
c) he doesn't have the money to completely care for the gecko as most people would like. But to tell you the truth..(my geckos come first so money is allocated to them whenever they need it) but there are tons of people out there that even have children without the means/funds to take care of them but they can still provide the same amount of love and support for them as they need. I think we need to remember that he may not have the funds but at least he came asking for help first.


I think we all need to focus our efforts on helping the poor gecko opposed to picking on this kid. Otherwise when his gecko needs help again in the future, he may not even come back to the forum to get help because he will just think that we will bully him again.

Good to see you got a vet visit. 58 is not bad...my visit alone was 75 + all the treatement stuff. Hopefully it is just a simple problem which can be fixed without much cost. And good to see you peeled off the UTH. Now I suggest that you research more about geckos in the meantime. There is a care sheet link on the top of the forum here...or just start reading as much as you can on the different topics on this forum.

Good luck and let us know what the vet says!
 

Theinfidel

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You're telling me how to care for my gecko, when you didn't even read my previous post, in the manual for the zoo med uth, it said to put on the side of the tank warm side, and it was recommended and my mom told me to do as it said, so we didn't mess it up so please read before you tell me how to care for my gecko.. but thanks for the reply.

Alright first i just want to clear this out quick.

Researching on how to care for the gecko comes first before reading any product instructions for your gecko. But in this case it came out the opposite and now this is what happened. I'm not trying to bash on you again here i just wanted to clear this whole "i did not read" thing.
 
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ks7777

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Thanks to all who are being helpful and telling me things, but if I didn't know how to care for my leopard gecko then how come I've had him for two years and he's not dead... I know what to do, I just needed some extra support because this hasn't happened to him before, only the not eating has but it was fixed.. He's never had swollen genitals, and always had his eyes open unless he was sleeping. So If I wasn't a good owner then why am I here trying to get help, and why would I beg my mom to take him to the vet, which now she is and why would he still be alive...

Kudos to you ks7777 for asking for help when you need it. I respect the fact that instead of sitting at home watching your leo die you asked for help from one of the places that you could possibly get help from many who know what they are talking about. For most of us that is why we join the forums, for a place to be able to ask questions, too bad it can't be without judgement. Perhaps more research could have been done for sure on how to set up and care for the pet but there are times when you think that you have done the right thing so why would you question the way it is set up. I thought sand was what they were supposed to be on at first until I started asking questions, because asking questions is how we learn.

My rules for my nephew when he is online is that he is not allowed to tell people his age, which happens to be 13. There is no need for him to around telling any child predators on line that he is a target. I never would have thought of it myself until I had a nephew around that age but we never know who is out there and what there intentions are.

I wish you all the luck in getting your leo better ks7777, please PM me and let me know how it turns out.

Jolene

Thanks a bunch Jolene for the kinds words, I'll be sure to send you some updates in PM :)
 

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I look forward to it!!:main_thumbsup:



Thanks a bunch Jolene for the kinds words, I'll be sure to send you some updates in PM :)[/QUOTE]
 

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ks777 about your under tank heater...... If you actually read the directions http://www.petco.com/product/6353/Zoo-Med-Repti-Therm-UTH-Under-Tank-Heaters.aspx#description-tab
It says to put hint hint the under tank heater under the tank on either the left or right side.

Zoo Med Mini Repti-Therm UTH Under Tank Heater
Mini; For Terrariums up to 5 gallons; 4 Watts
120 vac, 60 hZ, 4 watts.
Instructions

Peel adhesive paper off back of heater and stick to the bottom underside of your terrarium. Zoo Med recommends you place heater on either the right or left side of terrarium and gently rub heater to make firm contact with the bottom glass. This allows one side of your terrarium to be warmer than the other, thus giving your animals a natural temperature variance.


Helpful Hints

Use Zoo Med's high range reptile thermometer to monitor the temperature of your terrarium. Should your terrarium be in a particularly cold area you may need to add an additional Repti Therm UTH heater or Zoo Med's Repticare Rock Heater.

Caution

Do not use the Repti Therm UTH Heater on homemade or wood terrariums. Provide adequate ventilation below pad to prevent overheating.


http://www.zoomed.com/db/products/EntryDetail.php?EntryID=113&DatabaseID=2&SearchID=1

FAQ:
Q: Where do I put the Under Tank Heater?
A: The Under Tank Heater can be placed underneath the tank .


So please cut with the crap about putting the under tank heater on the side, it would be an oxymoron for zoo med to make a product called Zoo Med Repti-Therm UTH Under Tank Heater and then require you to put it on the side of a cage where it accomplishes absolutely nothing.
 
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roger

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Thanks to all who are being helpful and telling me things, but if I didn't know how to care for my leopard gecko then how come I've had him for two years and he's not dead... I know what to do, I just needed some extra support because this hasn't happened to him before, only the not eating has but it was fixed.. He's never had swollen genitals, and always had his eyes open unless he was sleeping. So If I wasn't a good owner then why am I here trying to get help, and why would I beg my mom to take him to the vet, which now she is and why would he still be alive...



Thanks a bunch Jolene for the kinds words, I'll be sure to send you some updates in PM :)

Stick around this forum.there are knowledable ppl on here to give u tons of info.dont be afraid to ask any question irregardless if u think it is stupid.there is no such thing as a stupid question
 

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Seriously is anyone else wondering why the Leo's vent area is so swollen...and the body doesn't look right...Im kinda thinking this Leo needs to see a vet ASAP. Great example of why if you can't afford a vet visit you really should second guess owning this type of pet, IMO, sorry if that seems harsh but its a just question/point.

I agree with this. If you do the research and have everything set up the way they need, they should rarely have problems and are pretty easy to take care of. But any pet can have problems that require $$. I'm sorry that it costs so much money, but I would've taken my leo to the vet a long time ago. I know you never meant to provide substandard care, but I think that is the problem here. Many leos can survive under poor conditions for awhile, but it will eventually catch up with them.

My biggest concern is the UTH being on the side of the tank. Leos need belly heat; without it they can't digest their food. Some people here have said to just take the UTH off and place it underneath. I read somewhere that this can ruin the heating elements in it, but I guess if it has worked for some people it's worth a shot, especially if you can't afford another.

I can see that you love your leo very much and I'm sorry he and you are going through this.
 

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