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kooteepee

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I had an egg which is incubatin for female, its the 70th day and counting. Anyone had eggs cook this long too?
 

GeckoGathering

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Alrite, anyone longer than that?

Mine is 73 days n countin, still no signs of her hatchin yet, Gettin impatient now. haha

Occasional one will need help getting out.
I pip them at 75 days.....(on egg temps. of 78 - 82)
that are not hatched on their own..........
So far its only been Good news or Bad news but pipping
didn't change anything about the bad news one.
good luck. take care. HJ
 

Gregg M

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You girls and guys are incubating your eggs way too low... The longest I have ever had eggs incubate were for 46 days...

Anything over 50 days is too long for leopard gecko eggs in my opinion...
 

JordanAng420

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You girls and guys are incubating your eggs way too low... The longest I have ever had eggs incubate were for 46 days...

Anything over 50 days is too long for leopard gecko eggs in my opinion...

Gregg, what do you incubate your females at? I was just curious. :)
 

Gregg M

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Gregg, what do you incubate your females at? I was just curious. :)
No need to incubate for female any lower than 84... The whole temp sex thing is flawed greatly... In nature there will always be more females produce in the majority of species... The so called 85 degrees = a 50/50 mix is not true... You will still produce way more females than males...

So to answer your question, my female incubator is set at 85 and the large majority of the hatchlings turn out female...

In order to get a 50/50 or majority males, you need to have your incubator set much closer to 90 degrees...
 

GeckoGathering

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Incubation Times.

You girls and guys are incubating your eggs way too low... The longest I have ever had eggs incubate were for 46 days...

Anything over 50 days is too long for leopard gecko eggs in my opinion...

The time involved becomes
no problem to me, since I do females without an incubator.
And with 100 % hatches in 2008 it makes me rely less
on the incubator used in the bad egg season of 2007.
IMHO I feel some problem eggs come from bator flux.
And not just mine...my buddy doesn't like waiting so
all of his go in the incubator.....and more problems.
Terminated, partial hatch, deformed.
Not a one with out the incubator has had a problem for me.
I guess I'll compare 2009 as I do it the same way and with
more counts too.

Take care. HJ
 

acpart

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I would try your out of the incubator method if I had an area of the house where the temperatures stayed steady but I am in a drafty old New England house without air conditioning and no desire for it either.

Aliza
 

Gregg M

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The time involved becomes
no problem to me, since I do females without an incubator.
And with 100 % hatches in 2008 it makes me rely less
on the incubator used in the bad egg season of 2007.
IMHO I feel some problem eggs come from bator flux.
And not just mine...my buddy doesn't like waiting so
all of his go in the incubator.....and more problems.
Terminated, partial hatch, deformed.
Not a one with out the incubator has had a problem for me.
I guess I'll compare 2009 as I do it the same way and with
more counts too.

Take care. HJ

This is because MANY people who breed do not know how to incubate eggs properly... Hova bators are made for chicken eggs in a class room, not reptile eggs... If you build a proper incubator the temp fluctuations are just about 0...

How many eggs did you get in 2008???
You either had very few eggs or you got very lucky... No matter how good of a breeder you are or how fertile your breeding stock is, you will never get a 100% hatch rate... There are just too many variables...

Does your 2008 "dwarf" count as a non defective hatchling???
 
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fallen_angel

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I do not agree that a person could never get a 100% hatch rate. Somebody out there surely has done this. HJ is a very good friend of mine, and I know how he incubates. He didn't have any problems last season.

Dwarfism is genetic, as said by Marcia.
 

Gregg M

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I do not agree that a person could never get a 100% hatch rate. Somebody out there surely has done this. HJ is a very good friend of mine, and I know how he incubates. He didn't have any problems last season.

Dwarfism is genetic, as said by Marcia.

Yeah, if there were very few eggs hatched someone could get a 100% hatch rate... HJ can answer my questions himself as to the amount of eggs he got in 2008... Like I said, there are too many variables when it comes to mortality rates... The odds of hatching 50 out of 50 eggs are stacked against all of us no matter how good we think we are... Also, you can not say that not using an incubator is better than using a proper one...

As far as the "dwarf" goes, there is no way to know what caused it unless it is test bred... But I doubt there will be a market for that... How do you know there was not a non-genetic issue with bone fusion or growth??? Did you know that incubation issues can greatly alter the physical look of an animal???

I am just trying to make it VERY clear that it is not a good idea to incubate eggs at room temp... Infact you are asking for deformities and low hatchrates if you do... An incubator is a MUST if you are breeding leopard geckos...
 

GeckoGathering

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2008 info

Yeah, if there were very few eggs hatched someone could get a 100% hatch rate... HJ can answer my questions himself as to the amount of eggs he got in 2008... Like I said, there are too many variables when it comes to mortality rates... The odds of hatching 50 out of 50 eggs are stacked against all of us no matter how good we think we are... Also, you can not say that not using an incubator is better than using a proper one...

As far as the "dwarf" goes, there is no way to know what caused it unless it is test bred... But I doubt there will be a market for that... How do you know there was not a non-genetic issue with bone fusion or growth??? Did you know that incubation issues can greatly alter the physical look of an animal???

I am just trying to make it VERY clear that it is not a good idea to incubate eggs at room temp... Infact you are asking for deformities and low hatchrates if you do... An incubator is a MUST if you are breeding leopard geckos...

Hi Gregg. My numbers for 2008 were
not large, but were 27 for 27.
No incubator used but an area created in a
shower room that runs 78 to 84 degrees.
A method designed to be different after a 2007 season
that was 2 for 12 eggs.
I not only changed the bator removal for females but also
Do my breedings another way(that I also feel helped 2008),
only do males in the incubator,
and did not count "Spider",(dwarf ) as ??? whatever.
(was never in my mind) ........So not 100 %
She does have a skeletal high at meeting of body and tail area.
Evidently making her a defect, but a nice one.
That's about it. Other than the no bator method was started
from reading that Albey does his females that way.
I guess his numbers would be nice to hear. LOL
Take care. HJ
 

Gregg M

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Hi Gregg. My numbers for 2008 were
not large, but were 27 for 27.
No incubator used but an area created in a
shower room that runs 78 to 84 degrees.
A method designed to be different after a 2007 season
that was 2 for 12 eggs.
I not only changed the bator removal for females but also
Do my breedings another way(that I also feel helped 2008),
only do males in the incubator,
and did not count "Spider",(dwarf ) as ??? whatever.
(was never in my mind) ........So not 100 %
She does have a skeletal high at meeting of body and tail area.
Evidently making her a defect, but a nice one.
That's about it. Other than the no bator method was started
from reading that Albey does his females that way.
I guess his numbers would be nice to hear. LOL
Take care. HJ

HJ, thank you for your post and explanation... I personally would not incubate eggs lower than 80 degrees... But if it is working for you, keep doing it... 27 out of 27 is nothing to sneeze at for sure...:main_thumbsup:
 

malt_geckos

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we incubate female at 84 a males at 89 with no problems. It usually doesn't take very long for our eggs to hatch and last year only one gecko incubated for female turned out male.
 
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IonBaller07

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So its possible to not use an incubator and just sit the eggs in some vermiculate (sp) or moss under a heat lamp.
 

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