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Y'know Kelli... I am lucky you're such an outstanding person.

If you weren't you, if you were someone else, I'd be yelling all kinds of things about color manipulation and how leopard geckos don't come in Crayola Red. I'd be wrong, since they clearly do... and I'd have to eat a big helping of crow on the subject. So I'm lucky you're you. It saved me the embarrassment of being wrong in public.
 

TokayKeeper

Evil Playsand User
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Albuquerque, NM, USA
That electric and the rainwaters are just flat wrong. I thought your bells were orange, but holy crap! How much influence of the Nieves line is present in the Electrics? I'm sure you've told me before. Those geckos are like a good change-up, both will make ya buckle at the knees.
 
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rico110

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Electric, Firewater/Emerine x HG Tang Het Firewater, HG Tang Het Firewater, Super Snow Eclipse, Reverse Stripe Radar, Patternless Stripe Bell Het Radar, Pattenless, Bold Eclipse, Emerine Bell, Patternless Stripe Bell.

I can't pick a favorite, I love them all.
It's a beatyfull group!!!!! i hope you want send a some baby. I live in Italy.....
 

KelliH

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Fort Worth, TX
Y'know Kelli... I am lucky you're such an outstanding person.

If you weren't you, if you were someone else, I'd be yelling all kinds of things about color manipulation and how leopard geckos don't come in Crayola Red. I'd be wrong, since they clearly do... and I'd have to eat a big helping of crow on the subject. So I'm lucky you're you. It saved me the embarrassment of being wrong in public.

Yeah I hear ya! They looked "nice" in the gecko room under incandescent light, but when I took them outside it was like BOOM! I had to call Steve out on the back patio to show him.
 

KelliH

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That electric and the rainwaters are just flat wrong. I thought your bells were orange, but holy crap! How much influence of the Nieves line is present in the Electrics? I'm sure you've told me before. Those geckos are like a good change-up, both will make ya buckle at the knees.

The Nieves line Tangs were my "base" group that started my Electrics. Sadly I only had one season of breeding pure Nieves and did not produce many, but those I did were held back. I then started crossing them with other nice Tang lines (there were not many back then, Albey, Hypo Tangerine Dreams and then later Urban Gecko and Hine line SHTCT's (for size!). I have to say that as far as the nice contrasting colors and patterns of the Electrics, they are unique and that is all a result of the original Nieves line I started with.
 

KelliH

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Just for reference, here are some of my early "Electric Project" stock. Also, just for fun, some Striped Rainwaters I produced in 2003. :D Yeah we've been working with RW's for a long time huh Chris? Since the beginning!
 

TokayKeeper

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Albuquerque, NM, USA
Just for reference, here are some of my early "Electric Project" stock. Also, just for fun, some Striped Rainwaters I produced in 2003. :D Yeah we've been working with RW's for a long time huh Chris? Since the beginning!

2nd pic FTW...old school tang! That's straight from the early days of Albey Scholl and The Golden Gecko, man!

I've had RWs since late 1999, when I got a pair of 2 month old hets via Tim McBride and sent directly from Rainwater. I never did breed the male het, but as the story goes I paired my female het with a full albino in 2002, got 16 eggs, 15 normals, and 1 albino (egg #16). And instead I let college (a good thing I suppose) and working get in the way with furthering my breedings.

'99 was the first year both Tremper and Rainwater offered their albinos to the public. And then there was Mark Leshock...did anyone ever prove out his line as Tremper, Bell, or separate?

Now you got me digging through pics from back then....

Oh, BTW, first fertile clutch from this pairing arrived today:
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RT-00-1F-3.jpg


Old pics going into attachments...

Pic#1: Hatchlings #15 and 16 that proved out my rainwater het female. At least I wasn't ripped off $1500 like others supposedly were. Instead I was ripped off elsewhere regarding pink.

Pic#2: RW PA from you!

Pic#3: Your RW PA, regular patternless, tremper albino, rainwater albino (interestingly the darker one, which later turned out very nice), and a shtctb.

Pic#4: Black, hi-yellow, and white patternless...photo from David Nieves.

Pic#5: Above pictured male RW albino paired to a CT, produced that hypo het RW. I think that was one of my hypo hets that ended up in Paul Sage's collection.

Pic#6: My original tang male.
 

KelliH

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I love looking at old photos! That second pic is of a male SHTCT (pure Ray Hine crossed to Hypo Tangerine Dreams) and a female Nieves x Albey Tang. :)

I love the Patternless baby pic showing the difference in color.
 

SFgeckos

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CA
Amazing geckos!!! I love the variety of genetic and phenotypic offspring!

On a side note, I was able to track down some Nieves cross offspring from some of the Nieves animals I gifted to a friend of mine about a decade ago (originally from you Kelli) I can see the Nieves influence in some of the animals but a few generations of selective breeding should "brighten" things up

Jon
 

KelliH

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Amazing geckos!!! I love the variety of genetic and phenotypic offspring!

On a side note, I was able to track down some Nieves cross offspring from some of the Nieves animals I gifted to a friend of mine about a decade ago (originally from you Kelli) I can see the Nieves influence in some of the animals but a few generations of selective breeding should "brighten" things up

Jon

I'm so glad you were able to get those geckos! I would love to see some photos. I have very few photos of the pure Nieves geckos that I worked with, and I don't believe any of them are digital photos.
 

lillith

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Land of the Rain and Trees, WA
2nd pic FTW...old school tang! That's straight from the early days of Albey Scholl and The Golden Gecko, man!

I've had RWs since late 1999, when I got a pair of 2 month old hets via Tim McBride and sent directly from Rainwater. I never did breed the male het, but as the story goes I paired my female het with a full albino in 2002, got 16 eggs, 15 normals, and 1 albino (egg #16). And instead I let college (a good thing I suppose) and working get in the way with furthering my breedings.

'99 was the first year both Tremper and Rainwater offered their albinos to the public. And then there was Mark Leshock...did anyone ever prove out his line as Tremper, Bell, or separate?

Now you got me digging through pics from back then....

Oh, BTW, first fertile clutch from this pairing arrived today:
KH-01-1M.jpg


RT-00-1F-3.jpg


Old pics going into attachments...

Pic#1: Hatchlings #15 and 16 that proved out my rainwater het female. At least I wasn't ripped off $1500 like others supposedly were. Instead I was ripped off elsewhere regarding pink.

Pic#2: RW PA from you!

Pic#3: Your RW PA, regular patternless, tremper albino, rainwater albino (interestingly the darker one, which later turned out very nice), and a shtctb.

Pic#4: Black, hi-yellow, and white patternless...photo from David Nieves.

Pic#5: Above pictured male RW albino paired to a CT, produced that hypo het RW. I think that was one of my hypo hets that ended up in Paul Sage's collection.

Pic#6: My original tang male.

I ***LOVE*** these old school pics, yours and Kelli's!! :main_thumbsup::main_yes:
So....where IS the black one in pic #4?

I had just discovered leos, in 2001...I bought a high-yellow boy and a never-to-be-identified albino girl. She passed away last year, But my "Original Gecko" is a fat and happy fella.

Thank you so much for posting these!
 

Marr

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Waterloo,Ontario,Canada
i didn't think one person could have so many show stoppers lol.........so unfair lol......kidding its a testament too your hard work and patience..........again unreal........
 

TokayKeeper

Evil Playsand User
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718
Location
Albuquerque, NM, USA
Amazing geckos!!! I love the variety of genetic and phenotypic offspring!

On a side note, I was able to track down some Nieves cross offspring from some of the Nieves animals I gifted to a friend of mine about a decade ago (originally from you Kelli) I can see the Nieves influence in some of the animals but a few generations of selective breeding should "brighten" things up

Jon

Pics or GTHO...:main_laugh:

Come'n Ho, I know you've got some old pics from back in the day. Post em up.
 

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