My Heart Is Still Pounding

Val

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What irked me is when Mexicans were specifically singled out. Everyone has the right to say what they'd like, but at the end of the day this is a reptile forum where we work hard to make everyone feel welcome. I think this is a topic that walks the line, and I'd really hate for someone to walk away from this with hard feelings.
 
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Lyndsey

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Well, this section is called "rants and raves". Not "ONLY rants and raves about reptiles"


No one was being racist or crossed the line. I was only speaking of Mexicans because that is the largest group of illegals that we have here. Now, if this thread turned into bashing of a certain race, then it would be too far. So far, everyone has been civil and respectful
 

Val

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Singling Mexicans out because they're what you see is not respectful. If someone feels the need to add anymore to the discussion, go ahead but do NOT single out any one country.
 
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Lyndsey

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Val said:
Singling Mexicans out because they're what you see is not respectful. If someone feels the need to add anymore to the discussion, go ahead but do NOT single out any one country.

They arent just what I see. Its a plain fact that they are the largest group of illegal immigrants in San Diego. Chill out, its not like we are calling them racial slurs and bashing them. Its an honest subject that deserves to be talked about since its such a problem that affects us all.
 

BalloonzForU

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This topic is a very heated issue here in the states, and yes we can talk about it, but let's keep it civil!

Val wasn't addressing anyone here with her comments. Instead of issuing warning that could lead to a temporary banning she asked that you guys respect others' feelings.

I can tell you now if we can't play nice warnings will be handed out, and this thread will be closed.
 
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Lyndsey

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BalloonzForU said:
This topic is a very heated issue here in the states, and yes we can talk about it, but let's keep it civil!

Val wasn't addressing anyone here with her comments. Instead of issuing warning that could lead to a temporary banning she asked that you guys respect others' feelings.

I can tell you now if we can't play nice warnings will be handed out, and this thread will be closed.

Id like to know where anyone was uncivil and where we weren't "playing nice"

If having an opinion gets you banned, then there shouldnt be a rants and rave section
 

BalloonzForU

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Lyndsey said:
If having an opinion gets you banned, then there shouldnt be a rants and rave section

No an opinion is not going to get you banned. All that we've asked it that you don't single out one group of people, to show respect.

Try to put yourself in the shoes of a Mexican American (or your own nationality) that is here legally and can't get their family here to the states, and then read again what has been posted. You're not talking to a buddy on the phone or in person here, you are talking on a public forum. What has been said already by a few can be hurtful. We don't want to alienate our fellow members do we?

We all want this forum to be a fun place to be, and yes be able to rant here a little bit when we need, but not to hurt other's feelings.

That is the only thing Val and I are talking about. So instead of arguing with moderators about this, post your opinion about the topic at hand, but lets keep it off one nationality of people.
 
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Lyndsey

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BalloonzForU said:
That is the only thing Val and I are talking about. So instead of arguing with moderators about this, post your opinion about the topic at hand, but lets keep it off one nationality of people.

Whatever...Im over it anyway.


Why dont you enforce your mod "power" on people that are clearly breaking the TOS with foul language instead of people giving their opinions
 

Val

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Lyndsey said:
Whatever...Im over it anyway.


Why dont you enforce your mod "power" on people that are clearly breaking the TOS with foul language instead of people giving their opinions

That's completely uncalled for. I'm not sure if you realize how much WORK it is to keep this place clean. On that note, if you see something so obviously breaking the TOS why not use the report a post button? It's been mentioned a million times and yet..no one uses it.
 

BalloonzForU

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Val said:
That's completely uncalled for. I'm not sure if you realize how much WORK it is to keep this place clean. On that note, if you see something so obviously breaking the TOS why not use the report a post button? It's been mentioned a million times and yet..no one uses it.

Like Val said if you see something you feel is going against the TOS of this site, report it!! All the mods get a copy of the report and one of us will get to it and correct the problem as soon as we can. We don't live on this site and have full time jobs, so we can't always read every post.
 
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Ian S.

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I'm still not seeing what the big issue is here. Or where these unjustifiable ban threats are coming from. Nobody singled out mexicans other than the story about the professor, which whom was justifiably terminated for his disgusting actions. These folks and myself included were just stating our opinions on illegal immigration... period. If ban threats are going to be thrown around for stating opinions maybe it is time we call this the rants and raves "about reptiles section."
Edit: maybe you can help me out here and PM me the comments you didn't like?
 
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Brian O

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You know what go ahead and send me a warning. Illegal immigrants, specifically illegal mexicans suck! I will not sit quietly and eat it anymore! If it were other people we were having problems with I would bust them out too! The 5 people that were all using my social security number in 2003 were all from down south. I am not making things up to make them look bad. I'm just venting because I am tired of them.
My family had to go through hardships just like everyone elses and they never took advantage of other people to get by. Besides if offending people is against the TOS why is Robin allowed on this site (this is a joke).
 
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Lyndsey

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Ian S. said:
I'm still not seeing what the big issue is here. Or where these unjustifiable ban threats are coming from. Nobody singled out mexicans other than the story about the professor, which whom was justifiably terminated for his disgusting actions. These folks and myself included were just stating our opinions on illegal immigration... period. If ban threats are going to be thrown around for stating opinions maybe it is time we call this the rants and raves "about reptiles section."
Edit: maybe you can help me out here and PM me the comments you didn't like?


Glad someone else sees my side lol
 
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Lyndsey

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Val said:
That's completely uncalled for. I'm not sure if you realize how much WORK it is to keep this place clean. On that note, if you see something so obviously breaking the TOS why not use the report a post button? It's been mentioned a million times and yet..no one uses it.

Actually, yes I do know. I am an admin on another site. I dont report it because its not my job to catch it. Its optional for regular posters to report violations.
 

Ian S.

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Damn Brian! How do you really feal? :) Be honest.... LOL
I'll bet that one makes the list though. ;)
Either way I'm outy 500 from this one yo... peace!
 
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Val

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Lyndsey said:
Actually, yes I do know. I am an admin on another site. I dont report it because its not my job to catch it. Its optional for regular posters to report violations.

Then don't complain about seeing other people violating the TOS.

The only person who brought up banning was Lyndsey, not Felicia and not myself. I'm not sure how many times I have to say this but it's OK to have your opinion but DO NOT single out any country in particular. It's really not that hard.
 

Val

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My mistake, I did see Felicia mention banning, but I'm sure as everyone knows it's on a three strike basis.
 
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Lyndsey

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Val said:
Then don't complain about seeing other people violating the TOS.

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I wasnt complaining, I was pointing it out. This isnt that big of a forum, so as many violations as Ive seen shouldnt fall through the cracks


Whatever...I said I was done before, now I mean it
 
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Golden Gate Geckos

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Lyndsey said:
I wasnt complaining, I was pointing it out. This isnt that big of a forum, so as many violations as Ive seen shouldnt fall through the cracks
Lyndsey, what makes you think these violations are falling through the cracks? Just because we don't make a public spectacle out of other members warnings, doesn't mean things have fallen through the cracks. Since you are a moderator on another forum, surely you know how difficult it can be to read every word on every post. As a matter of fact, since you are a moderator, it seems like you might be a little more supportive of those of us who try very hard to make this website a place where the majority of members would like to hang out.
 

BalloonzForU

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BalloonzForU said:
Val wasn't addressing anyone here with her comments. Instead of issuing warning that could lead to a temporary banning she asked that you guys respect others' feelings.

I can tell you now if we can't play nice warnings will be handed out, and this thread will be closed.

This is where I mentioned banning, and if you read it correctly, I said that Val chose to warn everyone in the thread, so it didn't count as an official warning, that "could" lead to a temporary banning. And a warning from me that if things continued in the same direction, warnings will be issued.
 

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