My New Super Snow Sunglow C:

tiedxupxinxknots

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i see what u guys are saying, well either way i am very satisfied with my gecko and the breeder was really nice too but i dont think he lied to me on purpose or knew that the gecko was a super snow tremper he probably got confused cuz the mom was a hybino, but the next gecko that i was planning on getting was a super snow tremper so its all good xD
 

Quantumhigh

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Beautiful SS Tremper! The breeder must of been confused or maybe meant parents were both snowglows or somthing. Id give them a call or email and try to get a solid answer on the parents genetics.
 

tiedxupxinxknots

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the mom is a extreme tang hybino mack snow
he also said "SSTA have deep red eye's not bright red eye's 2 create the SSS i used only tang mack snow's . the look is similar yes but the genetics are diff."
 
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SamsonizeMe

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Sounds like someone is blowing smoke up your shorts. Super Snows always have a stripe pattern. Sunglows are super-hypo, and usually banded. Regardless, she's a very pretty gecko.
 

Knobs

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I am the breeder to all you none believer's this does not look like the eye's of any SSTA.

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there is no eclipse gene in these either.

The super snow has its own version of the eclipse gene (but not the eclipse gene) so when a super and albino are in the same homozygous form, the eyes become red like an eclipse

If you dont believe look at my past posts and what mack combo stuff can produce.
 

tiedxupxinxknots

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that is true, i hope i didnt make u look like a bad guy or anything, i just posted pics of the nice gecko i got from u, i didnt expect ppl to say things like that, and again thanks for the gecko c:
 

SamsonizeMe

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I am the breeder to all you none believer's this does not look like the eye's of any SSTA.

there is no eclipse gene in these either.

The super snow has its own version of the eclipse gene (but not the eclipse gene) so when a super and albino are in the same homozygous form, the eyes become red like an eclipse

If you dont believe look at my past posts and what mack combo stuff can produce.

I haven't read any post in this thread with anyone trying to dispute the fact that a Super Snow's solid eyes, combined with albinism, produce a red eyed gecko. The particular shade of red shown in the phenotype of this particular gecko is not under attack either.

The thing people are taking issue with is that you called it a "Super Snow Sunglow". While her pattern is very light, I can clearly see that she is striped, as would be any Super Snow. Sunglows, on the other hand, have patternless, banded bodies devoid of spotting.

It's like this: You can take two Snowglows and breed them together. The 1-copy, codominant Snowglows have the pattern of a Sunglow and the reduced xanthism of a Snow. However, the 2-copy Super Snow causes the patterning of the offspring to change up to be striped. It also removes nearly all visible xanthin. At this point, said gecko no longer has the Super Hypo patterning associated with Sunglows, or the yellow and orange hues. Color aside, you can't have a Striped Sunglow. It conflicts with the definition of the morph.

So it is not a Sunglow. That's all that we are saying here. Even if she carries Sunglow genetics, and produces Sunglow babies in the future, she is geno-phenotypically not a Sunglow.

She is a very pretty gecko. One I'd like to have myself for sure. Don't worry so much, I'm sure if you re-read the previous posts you'll see what we're saying is not derogatory in any way.
 
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Gazz

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ok, well today i received my super snow sunglow from frilled1reptiles, and shes very active n cute C:




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A more correct term would be a Talbino super snow hypo. But you'd have to prove the Talbino super snow to be Hypo under the super snow pattern. By breeding it to a Normal leo. And if you get any hypo offspring then your leo is a Talbino super snow hypo. Super snow trait doesn't visually express hypo traits.

If just Talbino super snow.

Talbino super snow X Normal = .

Snow HET Talbino/SPLIT Super snow.

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If Talbino super snow hypo.

[1C]Talbino super snow hypo X Normal = .

Snow HET Talbino/SPLIT Super snow.
[1C]Snow hypo HET Talbino/SPLIT Super snow.
 

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