Need help. Somthing wrong with my LG

[Daedric1]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but from the pictures you posted I don't see any electrical cords running to/from your tank. What are you using to create a hotspot/basking area for your leo?

Typically people using UTHs to accomplish a warm area on the floor of 90-95 degrees Fahrenheit.

 

[gigan]

Hi all. I was to quick on registering that I forgot to complete my personal info. I was so worried about my new LG that I have to make a quick thread.

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[gigan]

The back right leg looks to me to have an odd bend to it almost like the starts of MBD. I second keeping the cap of calcium in the tank to make sure it is getting enough calcium, either that or dust food daily with repashy calcium plus icb for a while to make sure they are getting the proper supplimentation. It could be a simple vit. deficiency that could be cleared up with just some regular daily dusting with a well baanced suppliment like the repashy.

Yeah. I noticed it too. And makes me sad everytime i see it. I have inquired locally and we have about 3-4 dealers of reptile supplements and all of them have ran out of Repashy.

I already have a steady supply of calcium d3. And I already left a shallow cup filled with it.

And I dust the meal worms/superworms before I feed it. Seems to be ok in the feeding department.

yup i second what was said above, when purchasin a new gecko, quarantine doesnt just mean have them in a seperate cage, it mean keep them in a seperate room or at least at the opposite side of the room and always wash hands after handling the new gecko.

Also i agree with rmemeber to research enigmas thoroughly before buying one.

And i love that rack and enclosures cool set up.

I understand. I placed him far away from my main pet shelf so I guess that takes care of the quarantine problem.

Thanks for letting me know about washing my hands. Also I appreciate setup comment.

Like i said before... it does not really seem to be something that could spread to another animal... but in any case though in seperate tanks it can still be passed through the air (just for future reference! I read something before that was similar to MBD? So I was also going to comment on making sure to use Calcium... No matter what it happens to be hope it is all ok and do some research on the health of a leo... you will learn a lot and though it does not seem to be an enigma.... please do research on enigmas and enigmas syndrome before you ever purchase one! Good luck!

Yes will do that as I stated above. I can't confirm if its an enigma. The seller doesnt reply to me anymore. But yes I will do my research on enigmas. Thank you.

 

[Dog Shrink]

Is there any way you can order repashy calcium pluc icb on line? You should not leave a calcium WITH D3 suppliment in the tank. The leo can get sick from too much D3, just plain calcium left in the tank, and what you should be doing with your dusting is dust with teh calcium with D3 and a multi vitimin. It seems you're missing the multi vit. How often are you feeding/dusting?

I see being in the Phillipines you don't likely need to suppliment heat. Pretty warm there isn't it but if it does get cold, you wnat an optimum heat range of 90-93 degrees F for the hot side and I think coolest safely maybe 80 degrees F-ish.

 

[gigan]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but from the pictures you posted I don't see any electrical cords running to/from your tank. What are you using to create a hotspot/basking area for your leo?

Typically people using UTHs to accomplish a warm area on the floor of 90-95 degrees Fahrenheit.

Sorry about that. Haven't mention that I live in South East Asia. Specifically in the Philippines

Most hobbyist here (if not all), do not use any heat mats, or any other heat source for our LG's

I live in Manila and we have temperatures from 25-35c all year round. We do get 25c from December to Feb.


Most hobbyist here uses the minimum two hide setup: One for the moist box, and the other hide is for the room temp.

 

[gigan]

I know this is off topic... but where did you get your enclosures? I like them! Did you build them yourself or does someone sell them?

As for the calcium: Go find pure calcium (No vitamin D3 and no phosphorous). You can place it in the cage in a small container about the size of a sport drink cap. The gecko will eat it when he wants to.

Hi thanks for the compliment. No I dont mind. Most of them i bought.

I tried building my own. It is really cheap if you can aquire raw materials.

You only need the following: Acrlyic sheet, acrylic cutter and acrylic cement(cholroform) and a good size table.

Cutting is the easy part. Glueing is the hard part.

I can teach you, but Im not sure if this is the right place to discuss in full details. If you are interested just pm me.

Here is the rest. Sorry I just took a quick snap shots awhile ago. My cam sucks without flash.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/witchking666/Shelf_2010_02.jpg
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http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/witchking666/Shelf_2010_04.jpg

 

[gigan]

Is there any way you can order repashy calcium pluc icb on line? You should not leave a calcium WITH D3 suppliment in the tank. The leo can get sick from too much D3, just plain calcium left in the tank, and what you should be doing with your dusting is dust with teh calcium with D3 and a multi vitimin. It seems you're missing the multi vit. How often are you feeding/dusting?

I see being in the Phillipines you don't likely need to suppliment heat. Pretty warm there isn't it but if it does get cold, you wnat an optimum heat range of 90-93 degrees F for the hot side and I think coolest safely maybe 80 degrees F-ish.

I feel so stupid now.

Ok.

So let me get this straight.

1. I dust the feeders with Calcium d3/Repashy, but not so often.

2. I leave a plain calcium dish inside the enclosure at all times

Still trying to aquire the ones I need. I only have calcium d3 at hand. Ok im going to remove the dish now. Its been there for like 1 1/2 days. eek


Yes, its hot here. I lost a three year old venus flytrap and a corn snake last summer due to the extensive heat. I left for Hong Kong for about 4 days.

Needs some sleep. I'llbe back later.

 

[Dog Shrink]

If you order and use the repashy calcium plus icb, and you dust daily you do not need to keep the plain calcium in the tank. I only dust 1-2x a week with the repashy so I do keep a dish of calcium in the tank. I don't think 1-2 days with the D3 is gonna do any long term damage, you should be ok. However I do think it is very important to get the regular calcium or daily dusting with the repashy going asap. If you need to order the repashy keep just the regular calcium in the tank until you can get it, once you get it, and honestly until you see some improvement in his gait and that back leg, dust daily with the repashy. It really is the best suppliment I can think of. No premixing needed, already to dust and use, makes it pretty idiot proof overall once you figure out how often you're going to dust and how to/if you need to suppliment calcium.

Here are some links to the repashy suppliment usage:
http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=68783

http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=68449

and from repashy's creator:
http://www.forums.repashy.com/diets-live-foods-supplements/10646-repashy-superfoods-product-change-log.html

 

[Daedric1]

Sorry about that. Haven't mention that I live in South East Asia. Specifically in the Philippines

Most hobbyist here (if not all), do not use any heat mats, or any other heat source for our LG's

I live in Manila and we have temperatures from 25-35c all year round. We do get 25c from December to Feb.


Most hobbyist here uses the minimum two hide setup: One for the moist box, and the other hide is for the room temp.

I figured temps there were hot, but didn't think it'd be the same temperature outside as in your house, or constant all year round.

Ideally you're talking in the range of 21-27 (70-80 F) degrees Celsius on the cool side and 32-35 (90-95 F) degrees Celsius on the hot side. Because your temp can dip to 25 degrees for 3 months of the year, you're going to want a heat source for those months to help keep your leo healthy. The belly heat temps of 32-35 help the leo to digest its food efficiently.

 

[Jordan]

Is there any way you can order repashy calcium pluc icb on line? You should not leave a calcium WITH D3 suppliment in the tank. The leo can get sick from too much D3

Sorry to call you on this, and someone can call me on it if im wrong.
But if you leave calcium in the dish with d3, they'll still regulate themselves. Theyll not take too much d3 and theyll know when to stop.
i think they only get too much d3 when theyve got d3 suplplements plus UV lighting.
But i may be wrong.



To the OP, if your room temps are at the right temps for the geckos hot side... then where is the cold side?
how does your gecko escape the heat?
its almost like you need to cool mats, or ice packs under one side of your enclosure.

 

[Dog Shrink]

Seems it's a bit of a debate

http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?p=507434

http://www.reptilepets.co.za/rp0612od.htm

http://www.leopardgeckowiki.com/index.php?title=Supplements

 

[roger]

Sorry to call you on this, and someone can call me on it if im wrong.
But if you leave calcium in the dish with d3, they'll still regulate themselves. Theyll not take too much d3 and theyll know when to stop.
i think they only get too much d3 when theyve got d3 suplplements plus UV lighting.
But i may be wrong.



To the OP, if your room temps are at the right temps for the geckos hot side... then where is the cold side?
how does your gecko escape the heat?
its almost like you need to cool mats, or ice packs under one side of your enclosure.

i feed calcium with d3 once a month

 

[Jordan]

i feed calcium with d3 once a month

what? okay.

what im saying is if you leave a bottle cap of calcium with d3 in the geckos enclosure they wont overdose on it. they will regulate themselves and stop taking it when they have enough d3.


To the OP, i go back to my questions before. if your room temp is high enough to have the geckos without heat mats, then how does your gecko escape the heat?

 

[ddkgeckos]

what? okay.

what im saying is if you leave a bottle cap of calcium with d3 in the geckos enclosure they wont overdose on it. they will regulate themselves and stop taking it when they have enough d3.


To the OP, i go back to my questions before. if your room temp is high enough to have the geckos without heat mats, then how does your gecko escape the heat?

I would disagree with this if a leo feels it needs calcium it will lick the calci d3 for the calcium and therefore may be getting too much d3.If the leo knows theres d3 in there and dosent want overdose on it but needs a little extra calcium what does he/she do then. Best and safest way to do it is pure calcium in the tank at all times dust live food with pure calcium every feed and calci with d3 1/2 a week.

Anyway from what i have read d3 levels rapidly decrease once subjected to air so leaving a pot of this in the tank and hoping it will get enough d3 from that may also prove detremental to the leos health.

 

[Daedric1]

To the OP, i go back to my questions before. if your room temp is high enough to have the geckos without heat mats, then how does your gecko escape the heat?

I was wondering this too.

 

[GothicGurrrl]

hey, im a newbie leo keeper.. and i'm now soo confused about the d3 and calcium stuff.

I leave a bottle cap with 'exoterra' calcium supplement in her viv all the time. I dust some of the crickets in 'komodo' premium insect dusting powder. which contains loads of things, like protein, fibre, vitamin D-3, A and E... stuff like that. Some of the crickets I leave undusted. Am I doing this right?

 

[gigan]

what? okay.

what im saying is if you leave a bottle cap of calcium with d3 in the geckos enclosure they wont overdose on it. they will regulate themselves and stop taking it when they have enough d3.


To the OP, i go back to my questions before. if your room temp is high enough to have the geckos without heat mats, then how does your gecko escape the heat?

Hello sorry it took a while to answer.

Most of the leo gex keepers here keep at least two hide boxes.

One is the standard hide. Which is the room temperature hide.

The other one is the moist box. If the leo wants to escape the heat, then it would go to the moist box.

That is what I was told. And from what I have observed.

And we really do not keep heating mats/pads here. Except for lighting setups which are highly recommended for most reptiles that need sunlight.

 

[gigan]

hey, im a newbie leo keeper.. and i'm now soo confused about the d3 and calcium stuff.

I leave a bottle cap with 'exoterra' calcium supplement in her viv all the time. I dust some of the crickets in 'komodo' premium insect dusting powder. which contains loads of things, like protein, fibre, vitamin D-3, A and E... stuff like that. Some of the crickets I leave undusted. Am I doing this right?

Right now I leave a standard calcium bottle cap inside the my enclosure. And I dust my feeders with calcium with d3. I dont know if once a week is enough. But since my LG is ill maybe I might make it twice a week?

Then I have ordered Repashy all in one. Probably, if i receive it. I will make alternates between calcium d3 and Repashy all in one with regards to dusting feeders.


I hope some one corrects me.

 

[Dog Shrink]

If you're using the repashy calcium plus icb then there is no need to dust seperately with a calcium w/D3. It is all in the repashy icb.

 

[gigan]

If you're using the repashy calcium plus icb then there is no need to dust seperately with a calcium w/D3. It is all in the repashy icb.

Yes it is exactly the Repashy Calcium Plus ICB. The reason Im dusting alternately is because that Repashy Calcium Plus ICB may fcontain a few amount of calcium w/ d3 since it contains more than one ingredient.

Im kinda paranoid if Repashy ICB contains enough calcium d3 for my lizard.

Or am I understanding it all wrong?


But will take note of that. Thanks!