New and need some help :)

[Hankj]

Hi. I just got two leopard geckos from some kid.

He says one is 1-2 years old, female, and Bell albino. I believe this but I want opinions from someone with more experience

The second one, he says, is 4 months or so and a Blazing Blizzard (as Jack's sold it to him). He thinks it is male because it got in a fight with another leopard gecko he had. I can't really tell, and is he too young to tell? And I kind of think it is just a regular blizzard because his eyes do not seem too red. Or again, is it too early to tell? Here are some pics:

The "female Bell albino":
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7508/img20110122211333.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1539/img20110122211744.jpg
-Her eyes do look pinkish

The "male Blazing Blizzard":
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2756/img20110122211438.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4425/img20110122211454.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1240/img20110122211531.jpg

Thanks for any help you can give me!

 

[acpart]

The first one does look as if it may be a Bell and the second one looks as if it may be male, though I can't really tell its morph. What I can tell (and don't be surprised if a whole lot of other people tell you this pretty soon) is that these geckos are not in the greatest shape. I highly recommend you do the following:
--separate them from each other (and from any other geckos you have) if you haven't already done so
--keep them on a non-particle substrate if you're not doing that now
--keep them warm and feed them well
--consider taking them and a fecal sample to the vet, especially if they don't eat at all in a few days (in which case you probably won't be able to get a sample) or if the feces are consistently runny or smelly.

Good luck with them

Aliza

 

[Hankj]

Yeah I know they are looking rough and skinny. They are eating strongly though. The guy said he was running out of funds to feed them so I'm gonna offer them a lot.

 

[Hankj]

Should I buy them some wax worms to fatten up?

 

[LZRDGRL]

Sorry to say but the first one looks like she's not going to make it. You really need to do a fecal exam on this one. It's only about 20 dollars. From experience, I would assume she is parasite-infested and not starved to death. Don't let her get near the second one which looks better and just has a regrown tail. Don't mix their food (crickets and such), since they can be carriers of parasites, and disinfect water and food dishes and your hands when you go from one to the other.

The younger one is a male; you can tell from the bulges.

By the way, if you "offer them a lot," they will overfeed and regurgitate. Everything in measure; especially when they were fed sparsely before. You need to get them to eat SLOWLY.

It's nice of you to try to help those geckos, but you probably got yourself a heartbreak here. Maybe the younger one will make it for you. Good luck!

Chrissy

 

[Hankj]

He said he couldn't feed her well and she had laid eggs without being properly fed, could that also be a cause of this?

Also I was told that the two geckos have lived with each other for quite some time now, is it likely that the other one wouldn't have the parasite already?

 

[acpart]

It is likely that they both have a parasite, though the male may be in better shape to resist. It's really important to separate them so he doesn't try to mate with her and so she doesn't become gravid again. Waxworms are probably not the best idea because they aren't that nutritious and you don't want them to become addicted to them.

Aliza

 

[Hankj]

Run me through this process. I get them a fecal exam and lets say it comes back positive, then what is the next step? Do they give me some kind of medication?

 

[Jordan]

with the second picture, how come his eyes are blacked out? ... are your sure it isnt a young super snow? ... blazing blizzards have normal albino eyes.

 

[Hankj]

Jordan. He told me it was sold to him as a Blazing Blizzard, but yeah I noticed the eyes too, don't think it is a blazing at least.

I don't know it could be a snow, think I need to wait til he gets older if I can get them healthy?

 

[acpart]

Run me through this process. I get them a fecal exam and lets say it comes back positive, then what is the next step? Do they give me some kind of medication?

If it's positive the vet will give you medication for them and instructions.

Aliza

 

[Hankj]

My mother works in a lab and she claims she can identify eggs. If she sees any is it possible to get the medication without paying for a fecal exam?

 

[Psychotic4mb3r]

she very well could be that skinny after laying eggs i guess though. Ive seen some bad cases of this before. You can get a fecal done if you want. Id try to have the little girl eat good to try and fatten her up.. a few wax worms here and there wont be bad but dont over feed on them.. try to get them to eat mainly mealies.. But they both are under weight. So fatten them both up lol. But the female may not make it if something isnt done asap:/.. Shes very very tiny

 

[Jordan]

Jordan. He told me it was sold to him as a Blazing Blizzard, but yeah I noticed the eyes too, don't think it is a blazing at least.

I don't know it could be a snow, think I need to wait til he gets older if I can get them healthy?

Blizzards can sometimes effect the eyes however it is only VERY rarely.
But pure jet black eyes like that are either due to Super snow or eclipse id say.

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Sorry to say but the first one looks like she's not going to make it. You really need to do a fecal exam on this one. It's only about 20 dollars. From experience, I would assume she is parasite-infested and not starved to death. Don't let her get near the second one which looks better and just has a regrown tail. Don't mix their food (crickets and such), since they can be carriers of parasites, and disinfect water and food dishes and your hands when you go from one to the other.

The younger one is a male; you can tell from the bulges.

By the way, if you "offer them a lot," they will overfeed and regurgitate. Everything in measure; especially when they were fed sparsely before. You need to get them to eat SLOWLY.

It's nice of you to try to help those geckos, but you probably got yourself a heartbreak here. Maybe the younger one will make it for you. Good luck!

Chrissy

Hate to have to say it but the first one didn't get a pencil tail from laying eggs or a poor diet. Her days are numbered. As others have said, keep them separate from each other and other herps you may have. Be ever so careful with cross contamination of anything, be it feeding utensils, feeders, your hands, cleaning practices. They def need a parasite test! Were these geckos kept together by the previous owner?

 

[Hankj]

They were kept together by the other owner.

 

[Jordan]

then they ALL need a fecal test, parasite test, and what not...

 

[Hankj]

Hate to be repetitive but if my mom can ID the parasites or eggs can I get the medication without paying a doctor to ID them?

 

[Hankj]

Also, I have found no diarrhea, just solids.

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Hate to be repetitive but if my mom can ID the parasites or eggs can I get the medication without paying a doctor to ID them?

You will have to call around in your area and inquire.