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[Crazygecko]

Totaly agree Kelli.

 

[brad.a.c]

It is not snotty IMO. Konrad coined the name "Black Pearl" for a specific morph/bloodline that he has been working with for quite some time. Until this other bloodline/animal belonging to Komao is proven to be the same genetically as Konrad's Black Pearl, it should not be given the same name.

It would be the same as if someone else started calling their Tangs "HG Tangs" or "Electric Tangs" or "Tangerine Tornados" even if they had none of those very specific bloodlines.

I don't think that anyone has anything "stuck up their bum", rather they are expressing their feelings about the issue, the same as you are.

Keep in mind that I have no problem with respectful and thoughtful debate, but I won't put up with name calling flame wars, so please respect me and the site and keep this debate respectful.

AMEN Kelli. I'm by no meens being rude to you Valencia and I really hope you don't get mad at me but why would you call a Leo a morph that it's not? It's not snotty in my opinion to correct somebody because they stated that their Leo is a morph that it is not. And even Konrad said that it isn't and he was the founder of the BPs.
Once again, I'm by NO means being rude or disrespecting you so please don't get mad.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

I must say that I do agree with reuse of the "line" name being unacceptable. And I think the problem is ethical moreso than anything else. It's something you simply don't do in the hobby.

Kamao, here's a suggestion. Call them "Black Beauty". I think EVERYONE can agree it's a fitting name! :main_yes:

 

[brad.a.c]

Yes, it is a GORGEOUS Leo! I think I failed to mention that. :main_yes:

 

[Baoh]

This is similar to my unusual Bell with the snake eye which is superficially similar to eclipse. Until I determine it to be genetically compatible with an Eclipse Bell, it is "simply" a Bell with a ruby eye that is also a snake eye (genetically comparable). It is a parallel entity to the RADAR but not proven to be a RADAR as a RADAR has already been defined. If it ends up being incompatible with a RADAR het, yet capable of passing on the visually similar trait to offspring via other inbreeding work, I will give it its own name as a new morph that is parallel to RAPTORs and RADARs. If it is compatible with RADAR genetics, I will simply refer to it, once proven, as a Banded RADAR. Not beforehand, however. I only have some much evidence at present time and data does not lie. These processes take time and we must exercise patience.

As such, until Komao is able to prove it genetically compatible, another name should be chosen for this hypermelanistic morph. Something like Midnight, Dusk, Twilight, Gloom, Nightshade, or some other such allusive term and respect the bounds given to a person's discovery.

 

[Baoh]

Oh, Onyx is another good name.

 

[Lena]

:main_rolleyes: It all just seems a bit snooty to me. That's just my opinion.

But really, the subject should just be dropped and you guys should leave her alone, end of story. Let her call it what she wants, she's not advertising or anything, what harm is it doing?

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

It's apparent that you're somewhat out of sync with a large percentage of the leopard gecko community.

 

[Lena]

I don't care if I am. It just doesn't seem right for you guys to be so ready to jump at the throat at something so small as a supposed misnomer.

If I'm out of sync, so be it.

I'm defending Komao. I feel you guys are being wrongful to her. I don't really give a flying you-know-what about the majority's opinion.

Furthermore, I'm very aware of people's tendencies to flame in forums such as this.

 

[Baoh]

:main_rolleyes: It all just seems a bit snooty to me. That's just my opinion.

But really, the subject should just be dropped and you guys should leave her alone, end of story. Let her call it what she wants, she's not advertising or anything, what harm is it doing?

It's not the end of the story because you state so.

It's not snooty. It's the reward of discovery. Not paying due respect robs the person who made the discovery of his or her accomplishment.

I work in the pharmaceutical industry and this is a phenomenon with a great span.

Credit and recognition are more important than money.

 

[Lena]

Do you honestly believe that is the intent of Komao? I mean come on, seriously.

I highly doubt they're trying to rob anyone of anything. You people are making a big deal of it.

 

[Baoh]

Do you honestly believe that is the intent of Komao? I mean come on, seriously.

I highly doubt they're trying to rob anyone of anything. You people are making a big deal of it.

Intent doesn't color the reality of the result.

I'm not saying Kamao tried to do anything wrong. Kamao should just mind the label out of respect.

 

[Lena]

It just seems like a lot of bullying to me.

 

[hannahchasar64127]

I honestly agree with valencia .I would understand if she was taking credit for the black pearl and if she was calling it hers but she isn't she was just wondering if it is one .I hate when I see people being some what attacked for stupid reasons and little arguements that turn into wars cause people get butt hurt unless it's trademarked she can call watever the hell she wants to call it. and i see where you guys come from i see how you guys take pride in your the morph you wotked hard to create but seriously don't freak. and i kno i'm gonna get screamed at saying i'm wrong but oh well

 

[Euphoric]

Okay one person agrees with you Valencia.
There is a problem...

He is using it to create his line of specific morph and she is pretty much entitling herself to it although I really can't see the difference between hers and a black pearl.

Its like you creating a specific kind of..oh IDK lets say shoes like nothing ever before and your calling them smoes. Someone else creates something similiar, and calls them smoes too. Its just not right.

No one was rude, everyone was nice so I think it was you who blew up this entire thing.

And you really shouldn't argue with the seniors of the group.
You and hannah ar both only 17 (Ok I am only 18 as of next monday but at least I understand)
These are seasoned members and breeders.

You haven't even bred yourself so really you have no idea of this subject.

 

[packs_fan]

What the heck I just come and look at this thread again everyone making a really big deal about this. I thought what komoa said made sense. I really dont see why this is being taken so far.

 

[hannahchasar64127]

yeah i understand wat you guys mean but
in the end kamoa can call it watever she wants okay all you guys can do is to tell her not to but in the end its up to her

 

[Ccrashca069]

Black Pearls are only pruduced by 1 breeder and the only way you can get them is if you buy from him. The same with Black Beautys. And neither breeder of those black leopard gecko morphs have sold any of them.
Its cool that Kamao made their own black cool looking leopard gecko but just needs to call it something else so it does not get confussed with the real Black Pearl and Black Beauty's that the other breeders created.

 

[efx*]

Nice!!

 

[hannahchasar64127]

this just confuses the morphs even more we need like a a system like the akc for dogs but for geckos to give people there credit but everything is simplized