New black pearl pics 黑珍珠

[Lena]

PLEASE, STOP USING THIS NAME. THIS IS NOT A BLACK PEARL...
REGARDS
KONRAD
LAG

That's really pathetic.

 

[hannahchasar64127]

i personally think it is a black pearl

 

[supperl]

I must say as the morph named by his origin with the Name Black Pearl is not the line from what this cool dark gecko is, it is not the morph black pearl(even thought it looks like a black pearl but not like the morph) it shouldn´´t be named black pearl but could be named a baclk pearl of a gecko *G*.
Well whatever I would name the morph Black Hones, a Black pealr of a Gecko haha.

You also can´´t name a greenish Tang an Emerine that hasn´´t come from Tremper lines in my opinion

 

[Lena]

Let me give you an example of how everyone having their own names for the same thing presents a problem. How are you supposed to find what you want when each breeder has it's own name for the same exact thing?

Uniformity in morph name is necessary for this very reason!

Take a look at the way people name line-bred morphs in bearded dragons. There's a million different names for a yellow and orange/red bearded dragon like my own, I can't describe him by any of them, though, because all of the breeders claim to those given names. It's going to be a pain finding him a mate.

 

[supperl]

It´´s not realy a linebreed morph. So nothing you could name like a Tangerine.

 

[Lena]

It´´s not realy a linebreed morph. So nothing you could name like a Tangerine.

If it was an actual gene, all the more reason to name it the same thing, because it's the same gene.

 

[supperl]

Yeah but how high is the possebility, that Konrads BPs from a Dutch zoological garden is the same as this gecko?
The BP seems to be a mutation as it is no linebreed and came out from nowhere.
I would say he can name it but okay he has no right to say others not to take that name but it is also not fine to name an albinoish looking nonalbino a Tremper right?

 

[Lena]

Yeah but how high is the possebility, that Konrads BPs from the netherlands are the same as this gecko?

I'd say very high if they look the same.
You can't say for sure, so you've really no arguement on the matter.

but it is also not fine to name an albinoish looking nonalbino a Tremper right?

Temper Albino is a specific gene identifiable visually. As is Bell albino. There is a specific look to it that you see and know that a particular gecko is a tremper or a bell.
Why should it be any different in this case?

 

[supperl]

Tremper and Bell albino look also the same. W&Y and Enigma also Patty and Blizzard also..... BP is from Holland from and unnormal mutation and the Gecko here is from the US.
The chances are so damn small and most ppl will say yes they are damn small...
You can´´t breed Tremper to Bell andalso not Gem snow to Mack Snow.

 

[Lena]

Tremper and Bell albino look also the same. W&Y and Enigma also Patty and Blizzard also..... BP is from Holland from and unnormal mutation and the Gecko here is from the US.
The chances are so damn small and most ppl will say yes they are damn small...
You can´´t breed Tremper to Bell andalso not Gem snow to Mack Snow.

I strongly disagree. I think it's fairly easy to tell a bell from a tremper. Visually, most people on this forum can differentiate all the morphs you stated. I've seen them do it.

 

[supperl]

Yeah your right withthe Albino. I also can say which is tremper bell and RW but I think this one and the BP are also different.
Well whatever if these are the same genetic mutation and are working together(not as the Albino linages as we all know) it would be even bigger surprise as winnin in the lotterie.

Why should it be any different in this case?

Haven´t said that it could also be the same kind of mutation like2 Albino mutations 2 mutations for a Black gecko. I only said the chances, that these are exactly the same morph is fairly small.

 

[Lena]

Regardless, nobody knows for sure and thus the bashing of Komao is totally unfair to her. Let her call it what she wants. :/

 

[supperl]

I haven´´ bashed her. I said it is A black pearl of a gecko but that its not realy fair to take someone elses name(that is for his work).
Well we will only know when breeding the both lines together. assaid to the W&Y's the chance that 2 mutations like W&Y and Enigma are the same is nearly impossible but hey maybe it is than I will say sry you were right it is the same thing.
Otherwise we will have a new trait here and honestly I would better havean own mutation than hitting the jackpot to have a mutation hatched that already exists.

 

[Lena]

I'd like to see a trademark or patent on this name. :annoyed:

 

[supperl]

Find that on a Blizard or Patty or RRS or Radar or whatever.
These names are honoring the breeders work.
I would say easiest way is breed them together and see what happens.
So far it doesn´´t make sense to discuss I guess

 

[Ian S.]

PLEASE, STOP USING THIS NAME. THIS IS NOT A BLACK PEARL...
REGARDS
KONRAD
LAG

Seriously dude? :main_robin:

 

[Crazygecko]

I can see why Konrad would have a problem with someone using the name of a morph he developed before he actualy started offering them up for sale.
I am sure like all breeders who have developed a morph, he takes pride in what he has done and might feel a tad upset that someone else is saying they have hatched the same thing and calling it the same thing before its even proven that its the same morph. Especialy if the other person plans to breed and sell the gecko under the same morph name.
just my 2 cents.

 

[KelliH]

I'm kinda disgusted by the way some people are bashing komao. It just seems really snotty to me that you guys are getting so specific about the name. The gecko is a beautiful dark, black color and that in itself seems most deserving of the name 'Black Pearl'. After all, from my understanding this is a line-bred trait, not a gene.

I really don't see that much difference between livingartgecko's black pearl and this one, other than that this one's patterning is slightly lighter. Variation similar to this occurs in every morph.

Komao, your black pearl is beautiful. Don't stop calling it what you want to just because these guys have something stuck up their bum.

It is not snotty IMO. Konrad coined the name "Black Pearl" for a specific morph/bloodline that he has been working with for quite some time. Until this other bloodline/animal belonging to Komao is proven to be the same genetically as Konrad's Black Pearl, it should not be given the same name.

It would be the same as if someone else started calling their Tangs "HG Tangs" or "Electric Tangs" or "Tangerine Tornados" even if they had none of those very specific bloodlines.

I don't think that anyone has anything "stuck up their bum", rather they are expressing their feelings about the issue, the same as you are.

Keep in mind that I have no problem with respectful and thoughtful debate, but I won't put up with name calling flame wars, so please respect me and the site and keep this debate respectful.

 

[Kristi23]

I agree with Thorsten & Kelli. They still look nice though.

 

[KelliH]

I'd like to see a trademark or patent on this name. :annoyed:

There does not have to be a trademark or patent. Of course the gecko can be called anything at all, but it is in poor form to call it a "Black Pearl", in my humble opinion, if he is referring to a morph.

If that is just the gecko's name, then I see no problem with that at all. I have a gecko names "Black Pearl", but she is just a lovely hypermelanistic normal with solid black eyes. BTW, I have owned her for several years.