New frog found is World's smallest

DragonBeards

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How do they even find things this small? Heck, they have troubles finding extinct animals that aren't really extinct. Makes a body wonder what else is out there...
 

fuzzylogix

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you are absolutely right. think about how many species there are that are still undiscovered out there. i don't think we will ever discover all of them... i'm just waiting for a 7 foot giant panther chameleon. im gonna start saving my money now for that
 

T-ReXx

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The okapi went undiscovered for quite a long time, and those things are freaking huge. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if some other weird critters were out there, and that's not even considering the ocean. :p
 

M_surinamensis

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Nah, I'm waiting for a fruit eating snake :p. Hey, they found a fruit eating monitor, it could happen.

Found *another* fruit eating monitor. Varanus olivaceus has been described since the 1850s, although it was thought extinct for a stint of about ninety years until a few were rediscovered in the seventies.

No fruit eaters yet for snakes, but there is Gerarda prevostiana, which will kill prey (soft shelled crabs) bigger than it can swallow and rip off chunks, rather than eating it whole the way every other snake does.

Or some Great Lakes garters (I have these myself actually), which use their tongue to go fishing, flicking it and wiggling it in the water until a fish or tadpole is attracted to the movement (which looks like prey to them), then striking and consuming it.

Or egg eating snakes, just because that is really... really cool to watch.
 

M_surinamensis

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Are any of the egg eaters present in the US hobby?

Ohyeah, bunches of them if you find someone that takes the time to keep and breed them.

They get imported fairly frequently too. They make hardy, pretty easy to keep captives after they acclimate, about on the level of an african house snake for care difficulty.* The imported ones obviously go through a period of higher sensitivity as a group is cleaned up and gotten them restarted feeding but even there, they aren't too bad compared to some other groups.

They aren't seen as much as they used to be I guess, ten-fifteen years ago there were on lists all over the place, sitting next to all the other imports and then cropping up at random on the shorter lists produced by the CB project guys that would just work with whatever they liked. The market has changed, customers still want unique and unusual but these days they try to get it out of color morphs rather than naturally occurring oddities of evolution. Kind of a shame really, a lot of neat animals are falling by the wayside and being ignored.

Still, the first page of the "Other Snakes" section on kingsnake lists them once as of the time I am writing this post for a price of sixty dollars. I am pretty sure you could either find them in stock or have them obtained really quickly from some of the importer/wholesalers operating down in Florida too.

I'm kind of pleased to see a bunch of Acrochordidae in the classifieds section over there too. I might have to make some space.

*which is to say, really really easy. Stick them in a warm tub and feed them once a week.
 

Tony C

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The market has changed, customers still want unique and unusual but these days they try to get it out of color morphs rather than naturally occurring oddities of evolution. Kind of a shame really, a lot of neat animals are falling by the wayside and being ignored.

This is a huge part of why I am getting out of leopard geckos. They were my first shot at morph breeding, and while it is cool to see Mendelian genetics at work it is nowhere near as satisfying as working with the amazing variety that nature provides. Thanks for the info on the egg eaters, I may have to make some room for them in the future.
 

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