Offer less and include shipping

[goReptiles]

I am usually pretty lenient with my prices. Why do people offer less than your already low prices and want you to include shipping in that much lower price. I don't make money on this. I really don't, so it's not even that. Most reptiles that I buy get sold for much less than I originally paid, that's fine. But why offer less and want you to include shipping when an ad says + shipping?

No one from this forum by the way... Just generally speaking, I'm tired of the emails that say how about $60 shipped? Maybe that plus shipping and we'd be ok. I just want to break even here....

 

[gitrdone0420]

I hate to say this, but I think it is just the signs of the times. People are really really trying to save money on things and I think that people are now trying to bargain with everything! However, perhaps if they cant afford to buy your leos for your prices (Which by the way, i agree are very very fair), well then maybe they shouldnt be purchasing new leos in the first place? Idk, just my opinion. I absolutely love love love the last leo in your classified, the tang enigma. I would def. take that one off of your hands, but I just cant afford it right now =/ Anyways, I think your prices are fair, and I dont think that people are offering you less to be offensive.. at least I hope. Good luck =]

 

[Riyo]

I also think that there will ALWAYS be people that try to get something for nothing...they aren't worth your time or your animals!

 

[goReptiles]

thanks guys. i really don't mind selling for less than what is posted, but when they offer less and want shipping to be included... then I just can't do it.. a while back, i was offered $50 shipping included for a reptile that was listed at $85; i ended up keeping the reptile and still have her as a potential breeder. he told me usps priority is great shipping for reptiles and yadayadayada... later on I saw him selling and willing to ship eggs; odd and a whole other issue altogether.

I agree that it could be the times we're in, but like you said, Melanie, if you can't afford the animal, then maybe you can't afford upkeep and potential health problems, meaning you may not need to buy the animal. It's always best to buy and stay within your budget, keeping in mind future expenses.

I try to keep my prices fair at to what I would buy the animal at.. Even though sometimes, I feel they're priced too low, but if they were they'd have homes by now.

 

[Riyo]

USPS Priority...! Wow :/ Definitely somebody to steer clear of..

 

[gitrdone0420]

Like I said, I agree your prices are very fair =] And again, if I could come up with the money I would so jump on your tang enigma =] fortunately for me, even if I have to scrounge to come up with money for a leo, I work for multiple vets so in case of an emergency, they are always willing to help me out typically free of charge. So I am very lucky for that aspect. I work at an emergency clinic, and I see tons of emergencies that people cant pay for. I always wonder, why in the world did these people invest in a pet when they cant afford an emergency situation? I have even gotten the excuse "I just paid 800 for this dog! I cant pay for an emergency", like Im suppose to feel sorry for them? That is BS! I am always prepared financially for any emergency to occur. But anyways, I agree with you. I wish people would realize that there is upkeep cost, rather than just the initail cost of the animal.

 

[whkrazyk]

Its just an offer, all you have to do is say no, or just dont respond, I myself love a good haggle for prices, whether im selling or buying, its kind of like a chess match. Everytime i say or type a price its always OBO, I like to see what people will offer me, kind of gives me a reality of what people really would pay for a morph.

 

[Nigel4less]

Worst case scenario folks, is we keep the geckos

 

[whkrazyk]

Worst case scenario folks, is we keep the geckos

:main_yes::main_yes::main_yes:

 

[gixxer3420]

I agree that its just an offer, you have the right to say no. I love it when i get the chance to barter my price. In the end its the sellers decision if he wants to sell it for a price offered. No reason to take offense. Just my thoughts.

 

[sunshinegeckofarm]

yep i completely understand on the whole people dont want to give what is listed for price or want you to ship for free. I like trading if i have something someone wants and they have something I want and want to go for the trade i am all up for it because it saves both people the money other than shipping but still 30-40 dollars is better than 100 plus. Not to mention it builds trust with people when you trade. i understand its rough times but if you want a reptile then you have to be able to afford to buy it and upkeep it because buying cages and stuff like that isn't cheap so if you can't afford a reptile thats under 100 dollars then maybe you cant afford to give it what it needs. people often need to think about everything before offering for them now maybe if you offered on a bigger group of geckos to get a better price fine but not just one gecko or reptile. because us breeders have put alot of money into our reptiles and most of us dont make money off our babies we hatch and breeders we no longer want anymore not to mention we replace those breeders so thats more money. people who breed a decent amount will understand but does that dont probably wont.

 

[mynewturtle]

To be honest I wouldn't even respond to an e-mail like that. Not to be rude, but that in my opinion is disrespectful. Just throwing out numbers here:

Gecko is $80

Offer 60$ including shipping.

Shipping 45+ dollars, plus all of shipping supplies.

End result you are getting $15 for a gecko you worked hard to produce, care for the parents, and now caring for the baby. I don't care if it is just an offer you may as well just ask if you can have the gecko for free, and not pay for shipping!

 

[whkrazyk]

To be honest I wouldn't even respond to an e-mail like that.

Thats all you have to do, or just write back and tell them you cant do it and name a different price, That would be better customer service. An offer is just that an offer, nothing to get upset about, or take personally. For all the buyer knows, you could be having a real hard time and need the money, I have gotten some real crazy deals just buy offering. Last week I talked to a guy selling a red blood python for $200, I offered him $60, he came back and said its worth 4 times that, I told him if he can ever go that low call me, two days ago he calls me and offers it for $100 I say $60 and he said ok. I didnt do that to be a pain, I just made an offer, I realize you care about all of your animals and put alot of time and work into your projects, but an animal is only worth what someone will pay for it!!!

 

[eric]

Worst case scenario folks, is we keep the geckos

:main_thumbsup:

 

[Gregg M]

To be honest I wouldn't even respond to an e-mail like that. Not to be rude, but that in my opinion is disrespectful. Just throwing out numbers here:

Gecko is $80

Offer 60$ including shipping.

Shipping 45+ dollars, plus all of shipping supplies.

End result you are getting $15 for a gecko you worked hard to produce, care for the parents, and now caring for the baby. I don't care if it is just an offer you may as well just ask if you can have the gecko for free, and not pay for shipping!

It is not disrespectful... Its the way of the economy right now... Everyone is trying to get a deal on anything... Cant really blame them for trying...

Honestly no one works hard at breeding geckos and most other reptiles... Your hobby is not work... Keeping your pets healthy and thriving is not hard and it is not back breaking...It can be costly to keep large collections as far as feeding goes, but seriously, where is the hard work???

Think about it, when you produce offspring, even if you sold them at 15 bucks, that is 15 bucks you did not have before and did nothing but put a pair of geckos together to get it... Thats if you look at it in a technical manner... ANYONE can put leopard geckos together and produce hatchlings... How the hatchlings look depends on how much money you have to buy awesome looking breeders and new morphs...

On the other hand you want to get a good price on something you had a small part in producing which is totally understandable... Putting a 15 dollar price tag on something you were proud to hatch is hard to do...

So what do you do??? You either go down in price to move the gecko, or you keep it...

 

[leonut]

It is not disrespectful... Its the way of the economy right now... Everyone is trying to get a deal on anything... Cant really blame them for trying...

Honestly no one works hard at breeding geckos and most other reptiles... Your hobby is not work... Keeping your pets healthy and thriving is not hard and it is not back breaking...It can be costly to keep large collections as far as feeding goes, but seriously, where is the hard work???

Think about it, when you produce offspring, even if you sold them at 15 bucks, that is 15 bucks you did not have before and did nothing but put a pair of geckos together to get it... Thats if you look at it in a technical manner... ANYONE can put leopard geckos together and produce hatchlings... How the hatchlings look depends on how much money you have to buy awesome looking breeders and new morphs...

On the other hand you want to get a good price on something you had a small part in producing which is totally understandable... Putting a 15 dollar price tag on something you were proud to hatch is hard to do...

So what do you do??? You either go down in price to move the gecko, or you keep it...

No, It's not really hard work, but it is time consuming and costly. So it's not really $15 you didn't have before, It's hunderds possibly thousands of dollars you had before but spent on breeding stock and suplies and are trying to make back. I don't know about everyone else, but I would at least like to try to break even, but I will probably end up losing some even with "fair" prices.

 

[Gregg M]

No, It's not really hard work, but it is time consuming and costly. So it's not really $15 you didn't have before, It's hunderds possibly thousands of dollars you had before but spent on breeding stock and suplies and are trying to make back. I don't know about everyone else, but I would at least like to try to break even, but I will probably end up losing some even with "fair" prices.

You are looking at this like a buisiness... Most people do it as a hobby... With hobbies, the only thing you normally get back is the enjoyment of doing something you love...

One of my other hobbies is riding my quad on the motocross track... 50 bucks every weekend plus my quad was 6 grand and I am constantly buying after market parts and hop ups and spending hours cleaning it and working on it... I have about 10 grand in the bike not including the sticker price... I am not a pro racer so I do not get a single dime from it... I get enjoyment...

You can not look at this like a buisiness because honestly, there is a very small % of breeders who actually do this as a source of income... This is not an easy buisiness to make money at when the economy is good...