Oklahoma Police Kill 5-Year Old Boy While Shooting at Snake

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NOBLE, Okla. — A stray bullet fired by a police officer trying to shoot a snake hit and killed a 5-year-old boy fishing at a nearby pond, officials said.

Austin Haley was fishing with his grandfather, Jack Tracy, Friday evening when Tracy said he heard a shot and saw a bullet hit the water just a few feet in front of the boat dock where he was standing.

Moments later, a second shot was fired that hit Austin in the head.

A Noble police officer who had responded to a report of a snake in a tree apparently fired the deadly shot while trying to kill the snake, according to City Manager Bob Wade.

Tracy said he initially thought he and his grandson were under attack by someone trying to kill them, so he put the boy into the back of a 4-wheeler and drove to his daughter's house about 200 yards away.

"Then two officers came out of the brush over there," he told The Oklahoman. "They didn't tell us they were the ones who had been shooting or that they had shot him. They didn't admit a doggone thing."

The boy was taken to an Oklahoma City hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

A resident of the Crest Lane neighborhood called police after discovering a large snake in a tree, Wade said.

"I was told that they tried several ways to get the snake down, but it was still hissing at them and firmly lodged," Wade said. "What I was told is that the owner of the home either suggested or agreed that they should go ahead and shoot the snake, and then everything happened from there."

Wade refused to identify the officer suspected of firing the shots but said the officer has been placed on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.

"This is so bizarre it has to be fully investigated. ... We're pretty sure circumstantially that it is the bullet from the police officer's gun, but it might be a bullet from someone else," Wade said.

A state investigation has been launched into the shooting, and it appears the fatal shot was fired by the officer, said Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman Jessica Brown.

"We have no reason to believe it's not," Brown said. "But there certainly will be an investigation."

Tracy has little doubt about what happened.

"I'm not saying the cop shot him on purpose," Tracy said. "It was an accident. But let me tell you — if I had a kid and put him in this car and didn't put him in a car seat and he got killed on the way to town, they'd charge me with murder ... and what this cop did is a lot worse than that."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292168,00.html
 

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I am ashamed to come from the same state as this doofus. I feel so sorry for the poor family! :(
 

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that is really sad! What harm was the snake in the tree to begin with, it would have gone on its way at some point. If it was venomous and a danger there are still better ways to get it down that shooting when people and children are near by.

The officer should be severly punished for his actions and I really feel for that family.
 
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No animal control in Oklahoma? No Zoo's or universities with herp experience? Why didn't these trigger happy, yahoo, cops call someone before they went Wyatt Erp? They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Further proof that guns don't kill people. Stupid people with guns kill people. :main_thumbsdown:
 

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Whenever I first read this story last night, I was quite upset as most of you were. However, this is only one side of the story. Who knows what really happened? Not that I'm defending the cop, I think what he reportedly did was inexcusable. Until further information is provided, we don't really know what happened.

I don't believe that the police officer, or any other lucid human-being, would have killed a five-year-old on purpose. I think that he should get his badge taken away, he should be forced to give up any and all guns that he has, he shouldn't be allowed any further contact with firearms, and, pending a thorough investigation of the events, jail time.

Everyone seems to be painting this person, cop or otherwise, as a bad person. Imagine living with the memory of "I, accidently or otherwise, shot a small child in the head, resulting in his death." To me, that's the harshest punishment out there....
 
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ByRandom said:
Whenever I first read this story last night, I was quite upset as most of you were. However, this is only one side of the story. Who knows what really happened? Not that I'm defending the cop, I think what he reportedly did was inexcusable. Until further information is provided, we don't really know what happened.

I don't believe that the police officer, or any other lucid human-being, would have killed a five-year-old on purpose. I think that he should get his badge taken away, he should be forced to give up any and all guns that he has, he shouldn't be allowed any further contact with firearms, and, pending a thorough investigation of the events, jail time.

Everyone seems to be painting this person, cop or otherwise, as a bad person. Imagine living with the memory of "I, accidently or otherwise, shot a small child in the head, resulting in his death." To me, that's the harshest punishment out there....

It was criminally neglegent for a police officer to be discharging a firearm to kill an animal unless that animal was immediately jeopardizing smoeones life. Yes, he has to live with it, as we all do when we make stupid decisions. He should be charged with involuntary manslaughter at the very least. To fire a gun into a tree in an area where you don't know that those bullets aren't going to continue on their path and kill someone is absolutely moronic. This guy should never have passed his firearm safety course.

I'm not painting him as a bad person, I'm painting him as an idiot...... That is pretty indisputable.
 

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That honestly nearly made me cry, as a child's death is by far the saddest thing one can endure(and I have none).

As to the officer involved he needs to never own another firearm as long as he lives and turn in his badge YESTERDAY!! Firearm safety and simple common sense tell you never to fire your weapon into the air unless you have a surface that can stop the bullet directly behind your intended target.

That is one guy who slept though ALL his basic training in firearm use obviously. If that were my child(after settling the lawsuit), I would want him jailed. In reality, it was 100% an accident and no jail time should be pursued.
 
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paulnj said:
That honestly nearly made me cry, as a child's death is by far the saddest thing one can endure(and I have none).

As to the officer involved he needs to never own another firearm as long as he lives and turn in his badge YESTERDAY!! Firearm safety and simple common sense tell you never to fire your weapon into the air unless you have a surface that can stop the bullet directly behind your intended target.

That is one guy who slept though ALL his basic training in firearm use obviously. If that were my child(after settling the lawsuit), I would want him jailed. In reality, it was 100% an accident and no jail time should be pursued.

If you kill someone by driving your car jail time is typically persued (it may be deferred, but is usually persued). This was death by negliegence it was not 100% accident. 100% accident means the gun went off by accident. This was a decision made and the guy squeezed the trigger. No, he did not intend to kill the kid, yes there was a level of accident, but to say that they should not press criminal charges I think is incorrect. This was criminal negligence if I've ever seen criminal negligence. it was wreckless and stupid and I hope they persue criminal charges against him.
 

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Of course the officer is negligent and he should be prosecuted for this. Don't you think if one of us were the ones that pulled the trigger we would have been arrested? What makes this guy any different? Oh yeah... he's in law enforcement. I doubt he will be arrested and while he may be put on some sort of leave or even be fired from the department (slim chance but possible), he will be working as a law enforcement officer again within the next six months.
 
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A child's death is always tragic, no matter the circumstances. This was senseless. What would make someone think that shooting into a tree with a service revolver would be a good idea? Seriously.

On another note: Let us, as herp lovers, hope that it was a native snake and not an escaped/discarded pet. The ramifications from that could be hazardous to all of us.:main_no:
 

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Well, what I was implying was he in no way intended to harm anything beyond the snake, so it was accidental in that aspect.

Sad as it is, Cops don't usually go to jail for a mistake such as this, while I would be in jail instantly awaiting the bail hearing and lynch mod apon posting it. Sure the grand jury will hear the case, but I doubt it will go to trial.

Sorry, but I believe that him knowing he caused the death of a child is prison enough if he's a average human. I for one would need a straight jacket if I killed a child.
 
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Paul, we can only hope. I definitly carry with me the regrets of past mistakes that weren't withing 10,000 miles of being as grave as this one, as I'm sure most of us do.
 

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Josh, What goes up must come down.....anyone firing a gun should always remember this. He was firing upward into a tree, what on earth was this guy thinking the bullet was going to go if he missed the tree and or snake? Bullets can travel miles when shot at that angle, and something he should have known.
 

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Clearly, this is a tragic story, and if there is anything to be learned, it's that the people who are supposed to protect and serve can be as stupid (and often more so) and as reckless as those they are getting paid to protect. The fact that there was no Animal Control called instead of these "wild west" gun-toting morons is disturbing as well.
 

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Update

Funeral services set for Noble boy

Associated Press - August 8, 2007 12:45 AM ET

NOBLE, Okla. (AP) - Funeral services will be tomorrow morning for a 5-year-old boy killed by a stray police bullet in Noble as members of the town try to understand what happened.

Austin Haley was killed Friday while fishing with his grandfather when police nearby shot a snake. One bullet hit the boy in the head.

Police Chief Ben Daves has since put three officers on administrative leave pending state and local investigations of the shootings. Daves has declined to release the names of the officers.

It turns out the snake the officers were aiming at was a black rat snake, which is often confused with rattlesnakes and cottonmouths because of their coloring.

Since Noble doesn't have an animal control officer, Norman animal control officers collected the dead snake and stored it for investigators.

Meanwhile more than 50 people attended last night's Noble City Council meeting to question officials about the shooting.

City officials offered apologies and say they have no excuses.

The funeral service will be held at 11 at the Noble Assembly of God.

http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=6901704
 

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