Poor little LEO

[Golden Gate Geckos]

my personal experience has been that most vets are really nice at first and once they have you as a regular customer the quality tends to go down.

I've had the opposite experience. Once I found a reptile vet (President of the ARAV), at first he charged me through the nose! I have sent him countless patients, and have even gone in to the office visit with some of them. Now, after all these years, he will treat multiple geckos for the price of one office visit and has performed surgery for less than that! He told me that I am one of the few breeders that actually take their reptiles to the vet, and we have established a very good, trusting relationship.

 

[ryche316]

Now, after all these years, he will treat multiple geckos for the price of one office visit and has performed surgery for less than that! He told me that I am one of the few breeders that actually take their reptiles to the vet, and we have established a very good, trusting relationship.

Wow that's great. Hopefully I will come across a vet like that. I do have a question about tank heating, I've been getting mixed info on Gecko requirement of UVB light, some says it's required and others say it is not, so is UVB necessary for Leo's to help produce D3 vitamin ?

 

[endrien]

Now, after all these years, he will treat multiple geckos for the price of one office visit and has performed surgery for less than that! He told me that I am one of the few breeders that actually take their reptiles to the vet, and we have established a very good, trusting relationship.

Wow that's great. Hopefully I will come across a vet like that. I do have a question about tank heating, I've been getting mixed info on Gecko requirement of UVB light, some says it's required and others say it is not, so is UVB necessary for Leo's to help produce D3 vitamin ?

No, give Calcium+D3 supplements 1-2 times a week.

 

[satyr666]

Now, after all these years, he will treat multiple geckos for the price of one office visit and has performed surgery for less than that! He told me that I am one of the few breeders that actually take their reptiles to the vet, and we have established a very good, trusting relationship.

Wow that's great. Hopefully I will come across a vet like that. I do have a question about tank heating, I've been getting mixed info on Gecko requirement of UVB light, some says it's required and others say it is not, so is UVB necessary for Leo's to help produce D3 vitamin ?

They don't need UVB lighting as long as they are properly supplemented with a product such as Repashy Calcium Plus, or Rep-Cal w/ D3. Be sure not to over supplement though, the Repashy products can be used every day.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Nocturnal animals DO NOT need UV light to assimilate VitD through the skin. Leopard geckos only need to know whether it's daytime or night time. An UTH that provides a belly (surface) temperature of 88-95 degrees is all they need for their digestive system, metabolism, and immune system to function properly (and calcium supplementation in their diet).

 

[madrv]

I have had 3 leopard Gecko's and can't figure why they passed away. My first one I had 5 years, my second one was only 2 years old and my last one passed away this week and I had only 2 months. All 3 of them just stopped eating and got real skinny and stayed on the cold side of the tank until the just passed away. I kept the tank at 82 degrees f. I had an under tank heater, an above tank ceramic heater. I gave them meal worms, wax worms, and crickets, and supplements with reptical. I did not have anything on the floor of the tank, no carpet, no sand. I left it as a plain glass 10 gallon tank. I don't think I was doing anything wrong, but maybe I am. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

I thanked you accidently I meant to hit quote. We can also pass viruses to our lizards that their immune system cannot fight off. A good reason not to handle them often and wash your hands when you must do so.

 

[artes]

I don't think humans can pass viruses to their geckos - or to really any of their pets. I know gerbils can catch the (human) common cold, but that's about it.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

We can also pass viruses to our lizards that their immune system cannot fight off.

Could you please tell us what viruses can be transmitted between reptiles to humans? (Known as zoonoses). Most viruses are host specific, with the exception of some flu strains, and are rendered harmless between cold-blooded and warm-blooded animals.

 

[Dimidiata]

Ok, im a VERY sorry you geckos died, and that a vet wasnt available. GRBOXA, that is NO WAY to treat a new commer, they didnt know and they tried. You asumed they didnt try for a vet and HOUNDED them over it, shut up and try to figure out why they died and advise him for future reffrence before you start scolding on what should have been done.

 

[grboxa]

Okay first of all, dont tell me to shut up I dont know who you think you are. Second of all, if you read all the posts I posted several comments helping him which in return thanked me. Why dont you go back to the RANT thread and keep trying to pick out who the OP is talking about like a little kid....ridiculous. Its like high school in here.

 

[Dimidiata]

You hounded him in the first few posts, thats all it takes. You cannot call me a child over PMs you coward. At the OP, The advise given to you by the other members was sound. For future leos they need the proper heating met along with suppliments. Im very sorry for your loss.

 

[grboxa]

Im a coward?, your seriously lost kid, I didnt say anything different on the PM then what it said right here, I REALLY dont know who you think you are, but you should check yourself before speaking to others like that. The reason I got a bit heated was because I couldn't grasp the fact that the OP had a gecko live up to 5 years, knew what a UTH was, but had so much error in there husbandry like leaving it on plain glass, you never know who could be trolling...I never meant any disrespect to the OP and shared my condolences with him about the lost geckos. And I hope the OP didnt take it as being me being rude or aggressive in a negative way and hope all the info I provided, helped him...and dont sit there and act like you never got a bit aggressive in a post, your so hypocritical its annoying.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

You know what? This kind of antagonism and name-calling is exactly what the OP was venting about. Such a shame.

 

[Mel&Keith]

I'm hoping that this is the end of the off topic posting, otherwise we'll be forced to close the thread.

 

[grboxa]

Message was wide and clear Mel.... or Kieth lol, thats it from me.:main_thumbsup:....I hope the immature kid calling me a coward got the same message.

 

[gecko4245]

Could you please tell us what viruses can be transmitted between reptiles to humans? (Known as zoonoses). Most viruses are host specific, with the exception of some flu strains, and are rendered harmless between cold-blooded and warm-blooded animals.

This was also posted on my thread of handling geckos. Could this be what they meant?

but I do know that reptiles lack an adaptive immune system (the later evolved component of the immune system which involves humoral aka antibody mediated immunity). There are many pathogens humans carry on them which reptiles would not normally be exposed to in the wild, and would not have evolved mechanisms to fight off. A simple bacterial or viral exposure that would not even elicit a significant immune response in a human could kill a reptile because they couldn't fight it at all, which is reason enough for me personally to avoid too much contact. I'm happy just watching them in their own environment.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Aside from some parasitic infections, the only zoonose I'm aware of that is transmissible between lizards and humans is salmonella. HERE is a list of the most common zoonoses. Also, the simple handling of geckos is not what transfers pathogens, but rather oral/fecal contact.

 

[madrv]

Could you please tell us what viruses can be transmitted between reptiles to humans? (Known as zoonoses). Most viruses are host specific, with the exception of some flu strains, and are rendered harmless between cold-blooded and warm-blooded animals.

My mistake. I meant bacteria, off the top of my head Campylobacter is one.