R2 Bold Stripe x Emerine = Eclipse???

[KelliH]

Apparently in the case of this little girl, why yes, yes it does!

 

[gitrdone0420]

Lol, that is so awesome! She is gorgeous!

 

[Kristi23]

That's crazy! She's beautiful!

 

[robin]

AWESOME!

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Certainly would appear as though. Those are some pretty out of the ordinary results. Thanks for sharing that! Who'd a thunk??? :main_huh:

 

[miamimike]

Very cool and very interesting!!!......

 

[KelliH]

Thanks!

 

[dprince]

Hmmmm...........another genetics mystery. And what a gorgeous gecko!! Congrats Kelli! :main_thumbsup:

 

[KelliH]

Well, we figured out some time ago that the Eclipse gene is closely related to the Stripe gene. And my Emerine female (the mom) is basically a patternless stripe... hmmmm.

 

[ILoveGeckos14]

Im confused. SO the bold stripe was het eclipse and you proved the emerine to be het as well?

Very nice gecko too

 

[KelliH]

Im confused. SO the bold stripe was het eclipse and you proved the emerine to be het as well?

Very nice gecko too

Well, I don't think it's quite that simple. When you breed a Bold Stripe to a reverse Stripe, occasionally you will produce what we call a "Patternless Stripe", which is basically a non Albino Aptor. Well, all Aptors are 100% "het" Eclipse. When you breed two Patternless Stripes to each other, they produce Eclipses. So it appears that somehow the genetics of the Stripe combined with the Patternless Stripe (in this case she was also an Emerine) can also produce Eclipses. Well, either that or this was a total fluke LOL. You never know, these wonderful geckos are full of mystery.

 

[rawson5084]

Very pretty love the eye

 

[ILoveGeckos14]

So if I were to breed two emerines together there would be some eclipse offspring!?

I thought that eclipse was the result of a random eye mutation not a result of two patternless stripes together? As in I didn't think that if I built my own patternless from the ground up then bred them together it would ever produce eclipse unless the mutation for it was introduced somewhere along the way.

*edit* I don't want to take over the post Im just confused.

 

[SFgeckos]

Well, I don't think it's quite that simple. When you breed a Bold Stripe to a reverse Stripe, occasionally you will produce what we call a "Patternless Stripe", which is basically a non Albino Aptor. Well, all Aptors are 100% "het" Eclipse. When you breed two Patternless Stripes to each other, they produce Eclipses. So it appears that somehow the genetics of the Stripe combined with the Patternless Stripe (in this case she was also an Emerine) can also produce Eclipses. Well, either that or this was a total fluke LOL. You never know, these wonderful geckos are full of mystery.

I agree!! Eclipse genetics are very strange indeed!! I've produced some very "emerine-like" animals from jungle/striped/patternless stripes so my guess would be some emerines are perhaps het for eclipse?

Jon

 

[Wandering Paddle]

Eclipse is not a simple recessive mutation. It is something that can be unlocked with the stripe genes. The mode of inheritance is incomplete and very random. Breeding 2 patternless stripes does not always produce eclipses...but sometimes it does. This isnt the first time eclipses popped up outside of the original stock. The R2 line is unrelated to the original raptors, the emerines are related to the original raptors.

 

[paulnj]

You got my vote on it being a homozygous eclipse!

 

[cj.thomas21]

Nice geckos.

 

[Taquiq]

That's weird. A Bold Stripe x Reverse Stripe= Patternless Stripe

And a Patternless Stripe x Patternless Stripe= some eclipses! So basically you could obtain an eclipse without starting out with a het or hom Eclipse.

 

[Malibu Barbie]

ouuuh Kelli - amazing gecko.... I waaaaaant

 

[robin]

That's weird. A Bold Stripe x Reverse Stripe= Patternless Stripe

And a Patternless Stripe x Patternless Stripe= some eclipses! So basically you could obtain an eclipse without starting out with a het or hom Eclipse.

it's not quite that easy